Test cyp and anavar cycle

Hi Hoosain,
been following your cycle and progress for a while. In the planning stages of a very similar first cycle.

Was wondering how you are progressing?

Also what would you say your life outside training is like? I have a job where I need to focus all day and was wondering if you are experiencing any cognative effects while on cycle?

Could you run me through your PCT plans again and why you added the HCG? (I was looking at PCT 1, from the site)

One more thing have you decided on the bridge of var yet I am between 2 minds if i should do a bridge of var after having it as kicker too or if I should do one or the other.

JoGains wrote: Hi Hoosain,
been following your cycle and progress for a while. In the planning stages of a very similar first cycle.

Was wondering how you are progressing?

Also what would you say your life outside training is like? I have a job where I need to focus all day and was wondering if you are experiencing any cognative effects while on cycle?

Could you run me through your PCT plans again and why you added the HCG? (I was looking at PCT 1, from the site)

One more thing have you decided on the bridge of var yet I am between 2 minds if i should do a bridge of var after having it as kicker too or if I should do one or the other.

Hi Jogains,

progress, let me just say i am more than impressed with this cycle. My goal was to do a lean bulk and this cycle was doing just that. now keep in mind when i say bulk i am not trying to look like the hulk but merely increase my size a bit while staying lean

started out with a low dose test as a precaution to see my body's reaction to the test. i saw results which i think had alot to do with the anavar along with test. anavar definitely leaned me out nicely and i could feel strength gains from as early as day 2 already!

the test i could not tell at first and i'm assuming it's due to the long ester as well as the low dose i started on. when i stopped the anavar and upped the test i did notice the difference though. strength was up and i was visually bigger! as you can see my weight is now up over the 100kg mark.
what impressed me more is that i did not stick to my eating plan for the last week of december as well as first week of Jan. normally i gain fat easily, but this time around BF only increased slightly and i can still feel the tightness in my midsection. to me this supports the idea that test only cycles can (and will) drop BF if diet is clean

i am unfortunately office bound and not doing much activity during working hours other than walking to the bathroom and kitchen throughout the day. work with numbers so have to be focused and pay attention to detail all the time... so far don't think it's been affected while on cycle.
i am in the fortunate position to not have experienced any major sides accept the pumps and little bit of acid reflux while i was on anavar.

i started HCG from week 4 to prevent testes from shrinking and aid in recovery. so far haven't noticed any changes in my testes... and yes i do check them regularly LOL
i went with PCT 2 because it is a long cycle 12 week cycle. if you read the PCT article you will see it is recommended for longer cycles whereas PCT 1 is recommend for shorter 8 week cycles not containing harsher compounds like tren or deca

i will definitely be going with anavar as a bridge. it will assist by keeping me anabolic during the wait for PCT as well as help lean out a bit more as the cycle comes to an end.
honestly if i had to choose between a kicker or bridge, i would lean to using a bridge over the kicker. In my opinion it will be more beneficial in keeping you anabolic while riding out the test as opposed to being greedy for gains while waiting for your test (or other compounds) to take full effect.

to sum up, cycle is going well and i am very happy with my first cycle. if i could do anything different i would have been more strict with my diet over the last 3 weeks to ensure i get the most out of my cycle.

my next cycle won't be running during the festive season and i will definitely be more disciplined. now that i know how my body reacts to the test i won't have to use the low does approach and will start on the recommended 500mg/wk and probably start my anavar at 40/60mg depending on pumps

if you are looking for advice, best advice i can give is to read the article sections until you know it like the back of your hand. even after reading it over and over before my cycle started, i still find myself reading it regularly to ensure i stick the basics and don't go off track. the articles alone are more than enough to help you out with a basic first cycle.
i would also advise to have an AI on hand. my aromasin is still in the cupboard untouched since i didn't have any need for it. but i would rather have it in the cupboard and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

hope this post helps and sorry if there is a lot of unnecessary babbling :lol:

You sir are a gentleman and a scholar!

Thank you so much for the reply. I feel that my situation is so much like yours.

I have been pondering a cycle for so long, but have followed the advice from these forums, to the extent that I have been reading and researching on an on and off basis for about 2 years and only registered an account today.

I have also read the articles, but just like you I find myself re-reading them and each time I gain new insights. I am a bit of a pragmatic planner and this usually leads to procrastination... So hopefully I can pull the trigger this time (Granted only if I have enough info and such).

I will be doing the test cyp at 250mg * 2 week as per the cycle on the site. Do you think I should rather do what you did and gradually up the dose or, based on your experience, would 500 be fine?

I Will be posting info on that soon, I am still leaning out a bit (december binging), actually good to go better safe than sorry, but basically what I am thinking is the beginner cycle, but with test Cyp and var. 12weeks and then doing the PCT 2 as on the site. Then hitting var again as a bridge.

So you started hcg from week 4 at what dosages? Would you recommend doing it like that on cycle or just doing as per pct 2? And will you be running it again at PCT?

Thank you again for the informative reply. Did not detect an ounce of babbling this side. :whistle:

thanks for the compliments.

honestly i don't feel educated enough to give advice on your dosage. however the beginners cycle comes from experienced guys and all over the interwebz 500mg comes recommended as a safe dosage. in my experience 500mg has been safe and i took it all in one shot. so i guess it's up to you and how paranoid you are about dosages and sides... i was quite afraid of gyno especially since i always held a puff of fat around the nipple area since my teens. lucky for me no lumps and the puffyness went down as i leaned out.

your planned cycle sounds good to go.

i started HCG in week 4 based on something i read on the forum where it was said you can use it before PCT or during PCT. Using it during PCT helps prevent shrinking testes and is the reason i opted for during my cycle. Once again my paranoia got the better of me and i went with the rather safe than sorry option.
i went with 500iu every 3rd as per help from my source. on this forum, PCT 2 does however suggest every 2nd day.

pleasure buddy, no more babbling from me hahaha

Hey Hoosain.

Thanks again for all the advice thus far.

Yeah I am currently researching the hCG usage during or at pct, at this stage I am swaying toward on cycle. And then just running nolva clomid and maybe aromisen as PCT.

I can't recall correctly but what did you say your PCT was going to look like, I read somewhere that you should not run hcg on cycle and at pct?

100mg clomid per day for week 1
20mg nolva per day for 30 days after

i will NOT be using hcg during PCT since i am already using it on cycle

so basically i'm doing what you are thinking of doing.

Thanks.

Almost ready to post my cycle.

awesome buddy. i know the excitement as you get closer to the time.
i'm already looking to plan my 2nd cycle for later this year.

good luck with the cycle.

Hoosain wrote: quick update.

finished the anavar last week. test is at 500mg per week.
now weighing in at 98,8kg... jusat knocking at 99's door LOL

have eaten a bit crazy in the week between xmas and new year, however back on track now.

noticed a bit of bloat which i'm assuming is from the test?
test is definitely in full swing now. notice some back pumps quite often and especially when i go swimming. feels amazing!

as for results, i have had someone approach me to ask if i'm using. good news if they suspecting it.
on the flip side, when i mentioned i'm on a cycle the guy mentioned he was also on cycle. using sust for 10 weeks. i then asked about his PCT and he asked me what that was. when i explained he needs it for recovery he told me his supplier said he should use proviron.
lucky for him he shared his cycle details and i could give him proper advice. he has now got a proper PCT and has agreed to come to me for help before going on another cycle.

Good for you.

Another thing you will learn over the years is that everybody lies about their cycles :lol:

hahaha

i understand some people will lie about it to not give away their secrets.

go through the same thing in racing LOL. guys fail to mention some of their mods to mislead you before a race

True. In my younger days n only drag raced in A classes. 4A, 6A & 8A. So little shits with B class mods cant bullshit you. But anyway, back to the topic

Hi guys, i just finished my test and started anavar recently. then Friday tore a ligament in my knee during a soccer game
for now i'm on crutches and taking a bit of a break from physical activity. will probably be doing some physio to help with the recovery

the break is appreciated, but the circumstances are utter BS!
timing is the worst ever!!!

i would like to know what you guys suggest. i am off my feet for now, but shit scared of losing everything i gained so far during this cycle and even more scared of adding unwanted fat. i was wondering if i should continue with anavar until my PCT? i have weights at home and was thinking i could do some upper body training while i'm recovering? this will of course be lighter weights than i usually do at the gym. i also feel the anavar might help keep me lean while i wait for PCT.

i was also considering HGH. would this not help the recovery process?

Anavar & HGH helped me through knee surgery.

I would definitely continue with the Anavar like you mentioned and try doing some upperbody training. If you can, HGH would only help to recover faster and better.

thanks Optron. will try and get my hands on some HGH quickly