Using Clen

Good evening Gents

I am 33 yes old and a bit overweight, I have lost about 5kg since the middle of the January with my diet, training and cardio. I would like to know is there something I can use to help with the extra belly fat? I was thinking of using clen for a short while but not sure if I should go for it?

Belly fat bloody stubborn

You had one job.

You don't need Clen necessarily though. I'm sure a lot will agree. You've made good progress so far. What's your stats?

Be carefull not loosing to fast. @33 your skin is not that elastic anymore. Slow steady fatloss and you will thank me in two years

Clen is not advised for unfit people, risking a stroke for fatloss is stupid

GW and Yohimbine.

since he is on the topic oupa, what would you suggest for unfit people?

My sister is not the fittest at 40 years old. i have managed to persuade her to change their eating habits and my brother is giving her training sessions as well. she is however quite overweight.
she has lost a few kg but is not really motivated as it's dropping slowly... this is slowly driving her back to bad eating habits.

i was thinking maybe i can give her some FFF? what you guys think?

Hoosain wrote: since he is on the topic oupa, what would you suggest for unfit people?

My sister is not the fittest at 40 years old. i have managed to persuade her to change their eating habits and my brother is giving her training sessions as well. she is however quite overweight.
she has lost a few kg but is not really motivated as it's dropping slowly... this is slowly driving her back to bad eating habits.

i was thinking maybe i can give her some FFF? what you guys think?

A safe option, previously a member called BigBoy who was also really heavy had great success with it and even got family members on it.

In terms of cardiovascular fitness, Couch-2-5k is a great program with progression worked in. I would advise resistance training on top of that if at all possible.

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the training is being sorted. my brother is a personal trainer, but she just feels demotivated all the time. hence me thinking i should hook her up with the FFF

i will definitely look into once she gets a bit more of a routine with the training and eating. pointless giving it to her and she doesn't eat or train properly

FFF and GW yes I completely forgot about FFF it contains some Yohimbine.

Oupa gave great and true words above. Furk and the others on the site know my story cutting for a while now started at 147kg last year Feb I sat at 91kg and 15% Body Fat.

Know comes in what Oupa said. Instead of keeping my weight los slow as to ensure I am loosing body fat. I got demotivated by the pouch of loose skin on my lower stomach and love handles. I tried speeding things up but that I thankfully realised was making it look worse. Even though I am now up at 107kg my waist is the same size as when I was 91kg but my love handles are smaller.

GW?

Tiger23 wrote: GW?

An abbreviation we use for GW-501516 (Cardarine).

Thanks for the info chaps.

Furk GW 10mg per day, 45min before workout?

Tiger23 wrote: Thanks for the info chaps.

Furk GW 10mg per day, 45min before workout?

That would work. 10g is a light dose, I found 20mg /day to be a good balance of cost vs. effectiveness.

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I have looked into Tren and GW, apparently not a bad stack but is it worth it? Don't think so personally.

www.evolutionary.org/trenbolone-cardarin...-cardio-side-effects

Is a mini pct recommend only going to use 10mg per day for 4weeks on clean diet and training. I will limit alcohol and also quit smoking since the beginning of the year.

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GW isn't suppressive so no PCT is required
and as Furk said " I found 20mg /day to be a good balance of cost vs. effectiveness "

i can agree with that, 10mg i didn't feel much of an improvement but 20mg a day really makes a difference.

Can I if I want to do 20mg per day take 10mg in morning and 10mg before training at 16h00

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yes you most certainly can,
i'm currently into my 6th week of 20mg of GW a day split morning and before afternoon training.

absolutely no noticeable negative sides, only good things to speak about .

Oom G wrote: yes you most certainly can,
i'm currently into my 6th week of 20mg of GW a day split morning and before afternoon training.

absolutely no noticeable negative sides, only good things to speak about .

Great G, pics? Kg's or bf lost so far?


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i haven't measured body fat yet as i will do that once the complete cycle is done.
i'm down about 3kgs though but i wasn't really trying to lose weight, this often happens though when i'm preparing for a big race ( i do a lot of road and cycling and mountain biking )

i'm using GW specifically for the endurance properties and as mentioned it is definitively worth while
will post some pics and change in BF though after the Argus as i will also be done with the GW then

Oom G wrote: i haven't measured body fat yet as i will do that once the complete cycle is done.
i'm down about 3kgs though but i wasn't really trying to lose weight, this often happens though when i'm preparing for a big race ( i do a lot of road and cycling and mountain biking )

i'm using GW specifically for the endurance properties and as mentioned it is definitively worth while
will post some pics and change in BF though after the Argus as i will also be done with the GW then

On non training days just one in morning and one in afternoon?

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Tiger23 wrote:

Oom G wrote: i haven't measured body fat yet as i will do that once the complete cycle is done.
i'm down about 3kgs though but i wasn't really trying to lose weight, this often happens though when i'm preparing for a big race ( i do a lot of road and cycling and mountain biking )

i'm using GW specifically for the endurance properties and as mentioned it is definitively worth while
will post some pics and change in BF though after the Argus as i will also be done with the GW then

On non training days just one in morning and one in afternoon?

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that's how I've been running it yes.
makes sense to me to keep a stable blood level like the guys do when running other gear.

I started last week Wednesday but I got sick over the weekend should I still continue or stop with the GW?

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i'm not the most knowledgeable member, so hopefully others will give their opinion too
but GW is for endurance, so personally if i was sick and couldn't train for a few days i would stop and then pick it up again once back in the gym.