1st cycle

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04 Mar 2017 13:54 #207875 by Damian84
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Hi everyone

Just quick feedback needed on my cycle. Been training for years so fairly strong but body fat above 20% mostly around waist could never really seem to drop it. So decided to a cycle

I was on 40 mg tbol only 2 weeks but after more research seems i needed the test so added 500mg test cyp and a Ai 0.50mg eod. I will run basic pct after cycle.

So want to know if the above is fine to run 10 weeks on both and enough Ai..as i do have slightly high bf. My goal is just drop some bf and increase mass.

Train about 5 days on 1 day of 20 to 30min cardio eating keep high protein n low carbs.

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05 Mar 2017 13:20 #207890 by PoisonedPulse
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You going to really have to look at a decent diet to drop bf, you looking for estrogen related sides cycling at that bf... but as for your questions. 10 weeks will suffice, but 12 to 15 I find a sweet spot for longer esters.

Run a maintenance dose of 0.2mg AI (I try avoid it if I can and only run when needed)

Increase cardio, 1 session a week at 20 min is waisting time, 20min daily low intensity or 40min EOD with some HIIT training to assist bringing the bf down . It isn't going to magically happen with juice alone.

And keep the tbol to 6 weeks max.

Good luck
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05 Mar 2017 13:34 #207891 by Damian84
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Thank you for feedback since i started i lost about 3% fat and increase muscle mass about same amount and that was only the tbol for 2 weeks but il increase my cardio.

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06 Mar 2017 22:23 #207930 by Oupa
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Luister wat die ou se Damian, Poisen ken sy storie. Dis baie goeie raad.
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07 Mar 2017 06:06 #207931 by DruOmedra
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Well, you made a few mistakes here. You really should have known that you need a test base before touching steroids, not two weeks in lol.

And your first cycle should be a bulking cycle, from at most 13% bf. If you think you're bigger and 3% less bf, it's usually the illusion created by losing bf, makes your muscles look more defined aka bigger.

Anyways, it's not the end of the world.

1) keep cutting, no point in bulking at 20% bf
2) don't run tbol for 10 weeks, go for 4 weeks.
3) do add a test base, either cyp or enanthate.

Basic pct? So no hcg? Just asking.
I recommend aromasin as an ai.
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