Supertest + Anavar Cycle

Hi Everyone Im about to start a cycle, this is my 2nd cycle first one was about 4 years ago Im now 24 (yes I know I was probably a bit young) the cycle is as follows I wanted to get your guys views on it especially the pct (is it overkill):

Supertest 320:
2 x 1ml injections per week (Monday, Thursday each 4 days)

Anavar:
Liquid Pharma 20mg
40 mg starting from day 24 taper down to 20mg for last 8 days
^This is to act as a bridge to ensure I keep gains and PCT is timed correctly

Proviron: 20mg for first 3 weeks to give Supertest a kick

Letrozole on hand for estrogen control

PCT (Starts 3 weeks after last injection day after last anavar pill):
Clomid 150mg for first 2 days, 100mg for rest of first week, 50mg for 8 days (15 days total)
Nolva: 60mg first day, 40mg for 16days, taper down to 20mg for 5 days (23 days total)

Stats:

6 foot 86kg
24% bodyfat est

Diet:

Clean keto/banting diet all carbs come from vegetables

Some 'key stats':

Dumbell Bench Press 34kg each side for 6-8 reps
Hammer curl: 18kg 8-12 reps
Straight Barbell Curl: 45kg 8 reps (drop down eventually to 35kg on 4th set)

Let me know what you think and if your are interested in me to keep a log

Don't know if I misunderstood you, but what is the length of your cycle?

24% bodyfat est :ohmy:

you shouldn't be playing with gear until your diet is in order and your BF % is a lot lower

Oom G wrote: 24% bodyfat est :ohmy:

you shouldn't be playing with gear until your diet is in order and your BF % is a lot lower

good to know I'm not the only one who says that

he6065 wrote: Hi Everyone Im about to start a cycle, this is my 2nd cycle first one was about 4 years ago Im now 24 (yes I know I was probably a bit young) the cycle is as follows I wanted to get your guys views on it especially the pct (is it overkill):

Supertest 320:
2 x 1ml injections per week (Monday, Thursday each 4 days)

Anavar:
Liquid Pharma 20mg
40 mg starting from day 24 taper down to 20mg for last 8 days
^This is to act as a bridge to ensure I keep gains and PCT is timed correctly

Proviron: 20mg for first 3 weeks to give Supertest a kick

Letrozole on hand for estrogen control

PCT (Starts 3 weeks after last injection day after last anavar pill):
Clomid 150mg for first 2 days, 100mg for rest of first week, 50mg for 8 days (15 days total)
Nolva: 60mg first day, 40mg for 16days, taper down to 20mg for 5 days (23 days total)

Stats:

6 foot 86kg
24% bodyfat est

Diet:

Clean keto/banting diet all carbs come from vegetables

Some 'key stats':

Dumbell Bench Press 34kg each side for 6-8 reps
Hammer curl: 18kg 8-12 reps
Straight Barbell Curl: 45kg 8 reps (drop down eventually to 35kg on 4th set)

Let me know what you think and if your are interested in me to keep a log

Hey buddy... i think i should save my reply as a template.

Please read these links below before starting your cycle... Once you read them they should make you realize you should not start your cycle yet.

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/7-introduction

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/8-steroid-cycle-basics

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/9-post-cycle-therapy

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/10-diet...-calorie-intake-help

Once you have read those threads come back here with any further questions and your eating plan.

Once the eating plan is sorted train hard and eat clean... 3 months later should see good results and then start considering a cycle if all is in order.

good luck pal

Body fat too high. You can go ahead, but everyone will advise against it.

If you heed our advise or not is up to you. I would say cut, get into a good habit of eating clean and counting calories (I'm sorry but if you're at 24% bodyfat you're not counting calories or macros).

Another thing. You're 24 (if I understand correctly). Get a base line hormonal bloodpanel done. I promise you, you will regret it later in life, otherwise. You need to know where your hormones are at before going on cycle. You already did a cycle at a very young age so I'd be willing to bet your counts will be below average for your age.

Wanting to use Test in the first place, but other ancillaries like Letrozole without having any idea what your counts are, is just silly. And I'm speaking from experience, since I made that mistake.

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If you still decide to continue (You don't specify cycle length btw):

No need to taper Anavar. I would up the dose to at least 60mgs. Maybe start off at 40mg and up to 60/80mg.
Add HCG in the second week up until start of PCT. Go read up on dosages and why it's necessary. (I wouldn't add Anavar at your bodyfat % as you won't see any of the real effects). It will help strength though.

I wouldn't use Letrozole to be honest. Stuff is harsh as fuck. Rather add arimidex to your cycle to manage estrogen. Go read up on dosages.

Thanks everyone for your replies I appreciate constructive criticism will definitely consider getting my blood levels done:

So I think I have come across as a bit more of a newb than I put out I have been doing loads of research I just wanted to know what you guys think anyways let me try give better details:

So my bodyfat is probably a bit lower than 24% its probably closer to 16% (I was hard on myself) I am pretty ripped up everywhere except for a stubborn bit on the bottom of my stomach (I have a 4 pack & I swim at least 3km a week, gym 4-5 days a week depending on recovery of my muscles), I have been training hard getting really good gains naturally but have hit a plateu (even with switching routines)

My cycle length is going to be a total of 8.5 weeks due to availability I'm going to now be running test-e 300mg (each 5 days to 'snowball' the longer ester getting an equivalent of 420mg per week [300mg * 7/5])

I'm timing the last 40mg of anavar to be exactly 2 weeks after my last shot (so that PCT is timed perfectly as it starts the day after the Var) running anavar at 40mg for 25 days at the end of the cycle

I'm running 25mg of proviron for 50 days of the cycle to enhance the test and reduce estro sides (I've read this helds)

I have opted not to touch letrozole as more research shows its harsh on the body and a lil estrogen will help gains

PCT: Clomid 150mg first 2 days, 100mg for 5 days, 50mg for 2weeks (if my balls bounce back quickly I will shorten the clomid period)
Nolva 60mg first day, 40mg for 3 weeks taper down to 20mg for 5 days (I have extra nolva on hand if I get gyno in cycle)

Sounds good bro, I would still add the HCG from the 2nd week to keep the guys somewhat alive transitioning into PCT.

he6065 wrote: I have opted not to touch letrozole as more research shows its harsh on the body and a lil estrogen will help gains

Letro crushed my estro on cycle and even after PCT (atleast, this is what I attribute to the bloodwork and hormones in question). With any other ai you could theoretically control your estrogen to a greater extent, instead of getting rid of it completely. I know a few okes who swear by Letro but I am not an advocate. Purely personal preference; would not use it again.

I wish so much that I had ordered hcg but I have already ordered and re-ordering is not an option (got it through this girls mutual friend who she wouldn't give me the contact details of, long story but situation wise I can't order more, and I don't have any reliable sources in JHB) what I do have is 60 pills x 20mg nolva, 30 pils x 50mg Clomid and 50 pills time 25mg Proviron (which completely stops test converting to estrogen and is the BOMB apparently) What do you guys rate is this going to bring my nads back to life I don't care about libilido I can deal with that I was in a relationship for 4 LONG ASS years.

Tell me what did it feel like when your estro was completely shut?

he6065 wrote: Thanks everyone for your replies I appreciate constructive criticism will definitely consider getting my blood levels done:

So I think I have come across as a bit more of a newb than I put out I have been doing loads of research I just wanted to know what you guys think anyways let me try give better details:

So my bodyfat is probably a bit lower than 24% its probably closer to 16% (I was hard on myself) I am pretty ripped up everywhere except for a stubborn bit on the bottom of my stomach (I have a 4 pack & I swim at least 3km a week, gym 4-5 days a week depending on recovery of my muscles), I have been training hard getting really good gains naturally but have hit a plateu (even with switching routines)

My cycle length is going to be a total of 8.5 weeks due to availability I'm going to now be running test-e 300mg (each 5 days to 'snowball' the longer ester getting an equivalent of 420mg per week [300mg * 7/5])

I'm timing the last 40mg of anavar to be exactly 2 weeks after my last shot (so that PCT is timed perfectly as it starts the day after the Var) running anavar at 40mg for 25 days at the end of the cycle

I'm running 25mg of proviron for 50 days of the cycle to enhance the test and reduce estro sides (I've read this helds)

I have opted not to touch letrozole as more research shows its harsh on the body and a lil estrogen will help gains

PCT: Clomid 150mg first 2 days, 100mg for 5 days, 50mg for 2weeks (if my balls bounce back quickly I will shorten the clomid period)
Nolva 60mg first day, 40mg for 3 weeks taper down to 20mg for 5 days (I have extra nolva on hand if I get gyno in cycle)

Hey buddy, i can tell by this post you have still not read the links posted.

Please do yourself a favour and read the articles. once you read it you will know where changes are needed and update your thread.