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Second Cycle Thoughts - Lean mass/strength
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05 Jun 2017 16:20 #210187
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Hi Guys,
I'm thinking of running my second Cycle and was hoping to draw on some knowledge from the pros.
My 1St experiment was a SuperTest/Wini cycle. I loved every minute of that shit. I cycled the test for 15 weeks and used 30/40mg of wini to bridge. The final result was an 8kg gain and 2% drop in bf. I'll be 1St to admit that my diet could have been better.
Although I was more than happy with the size gains, having plateued at 108kgs for almost 2 years, I did not experience the greatest increase in strength. I added 20kgs to my bench, 40kgs to my squat and 20kgs to my deadlift. To be fair, I did not do alot in terms of strength training I.e heavy weight for 3-5 reps, instead I focused more on the hypertrophy 6-10/8-12 rep stuff thinking that my lifts would just get easier in weeks which followed which would ultimately lead to me loading 150 on the bench and pushing it 12 times while others watched on in amazement (rather shortsighted of me).
Which brings me here, I'd like to run something similar to my 1St cycle while adding Equipoise at 2ml a week. My proposed cycle would be:
Week 1-15 SuperTest at 640MG/week
Week 1-15 Equi at 700MG/week
Week 16-20 wini at 40MG/week or Var at 60-80mg/week.
Pct would be clomid and nolva following week 20 with HCG used from week 10. I will keep aromatasin on hand as I did before and I will start liver support 2 weeks before the wini and throughout as I did before. I'll keep an msm supplement around for the joints too.
I've also had a look at gw and thought of adding it to this cycle for its strength/bp/cholesterol benefits. When would one bring it into cycle and at what dosage and for how long? I had a bp test done while on cycle and my initial reading came in at 188/101, the lady helping me nearly fell off her chair. I did one more and it came in at 163/88 so still very high. I did read a reply from pump on another thread to which he suggested hawthorn berry and chamomile tea. So I'll be getting some of that to try out day to day.
I do apologise for the long winded post. I would appreciate any thoughts, insight and suggestions.
Cheers guys.
Before I forget. Stats:
Age: 25
Height: 188cm
Weight: 116kg
Bf%: 13.1%
Lifting experience: 8 years
Macros: trying to maintain 40/40/20
1 Rep max:
Bench: 160kg goal 200kg
Squat: 200kg goal 260kg
Deadlift: 200kg goal 260kg
Cheers
I'm thinking of running my second Cycle and was hoping to draw on some knowledge from the pros.
My 1St experiment was a SuperTest/Wini cycle. I loved every minute of that shit. I cycled the test for 15 weeks and used 30/40mg of wini to bridge. The final result was an 8kg gain and 2% drop in bf. I'll be 1St to admit that my diet could have been better.
Although I was more than happy with the size gains, having plateued at 108kgs for almost 2 years, I did not experience the greatest increase in strength. I added 20kgs to my bench, 40kgs to my squat and 20kgs to my deadlift. To be fair, I did not do alot in terms of strength training I.e heavy weight for 3-5 reps, instead I focused more on the hypertrophy 6-10/8-12 rep stuff thinking that my lifts would just get easier in weeks which followed which would ultimately lead to me loading 150 on the bench and pushing it 12 times while others watched on in amazement (rather shortsighted of me).
Which brings me here, I'd like to run something similar to my 1St cycle while adding Equipoise at 2ml a week. My proposed cycle would be:
Week 1-15 SuperTest at 640MG/week
Week 1-15 Equi at 700MG/week
Week 16-20 wini at 40MG/week or Var at 60-80mg/week.
Pct would be clomid and nolva following week 20 with HCG used from week 10. I will keep aromatasin on hand as I did before and I will start liver support 2 weeks before the wini and throughout as I did before. I'll keep an msm supplement around for the joints too.
I've also had a look at gw and thought of adding it to this cycle for its strength/bp/cholesterol benefits. When would one bring it into cycle and at what dosage and for how long? I had a bp test done while on cycle and my initial reading came in at 188/101, the lady helping me nearly fell off her chair. I did one more and it came in at 163/88 so still very high. I did read a reply from pump on another thread to which he suggested hawthorn berry and chamomile tea. So I'll be getting some of that to try out day to day.
I do apologise for the long winded post. I would appreciate any thoughts, insight and suggestions.
Cheers guys.
Before I forget. Stats:
Age: 25
Height: 188cm
Weight: 116kg
Bf%: 13.1%
Lifting experience: 8 years
Macros: trying to maintain 40/40/20
1 Rep max:
Bench: 160kg goal 200kg
Squat: 200kg goal 260kg
Deadlift: 200kg goal 260kg
Cheers
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"You don't have to sssssseeee ussss to feeeear usss...."
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05 Jun 2017 18:29 #210189
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Replied by SamZ4000 on topic Second Cycle Thoughts - Lean mass/strength
Hey there your cycle is simialer to the one in the "sample cycle" section (advanced users) as a 2nd cycle i would suggest a few more test cycles maybe add in deca.
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05 Jun 2017 23:14 #210201
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The cycle is nice but I do worry about your blood pressure. Thats a decently high EQ and Test dose and your blood pressure may be an issue. While the hawthorn berry, chamomile tea and GW will help, that was very high and EQ is quite a harsh drug on the bp. I think you should choose something else to run with your test. Compounds effect people differently but if I were you I would do 450mg NPP (because NPP and deca dont effect my bp much) but that is not saying it wont for you, but EQ is almost guaranteed. Masteron at 400-500ish/Npp at 450ish would be my choices.
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