1st cycle expectations

Hi guys this is my 1st cycle.. took ages to build up the nerve to start

I'm 26 5ft 7" 88.5kgs pretty strong and fit (mix of free weights, calisthenics and boxing)

Cycle start 20th August 2017

- Injection of HD Labs NebedoJect 250

- 1 Beyer Proviron

- waiting for Turinabol tabs (starting today)


I'd like to know what to expect, the dude who advised me to start here really knows his stuff so I'm not worried.. any advice/crit/insight will be appreciated

Why Nebedo out of interest

has the dude sorted out your PCT goodies? explained the risks and possible sides? explained how to combat sides and gotten compounds on hand in case sides arise?

Has he confirmed your goal and tailored your cycle according to your goal?

Has he checked your diet or given you a proper diet?

Personally I think you should have done research before starting the cycle. The nebedo question everyone asks is probably going to lead to proof you haven't really thought this through buddy.

Anyway you have started and hopefully everyone can assist to make your cycle go as good as possible.

Oh and welcome to this awesome place

He has explained everything and my pct is ready, he said we will wait till the end of the month to track progress and I keep him updated on the daily, I haven't noticed any real changes so far but its still early days.

I was expecting something so far but from what I've read diff people exp diff results at diff paces, so far feel pretty normal besides a slightly increased pump but not from the training I expected, for example I got more of a pump from sprints than from squats?

I told him I didn't want anything too hectic as i don't struggle to gain muscle just struggle to hold onto it when I try get leaner than 10% bodyfat hence nebidoject, I also suffer with depressive tendencies and agression naturally so wanted to gauge it on a light cycle, thanks for the replies and I do feel welcome thanks guys

K_illa wrote: I also suffer with depressive tendencies and agression naturally so wanted to gauge it on a light cycle

Juice is not something to play around with, testosterone amplifies everything that you already are, if you're an asshole you'll become an even larger asshole. Do you take any medication for your depression?

Personally you need to be in the right state of mind before a cycle,it's a huge emotional roller coaster during the cycle,bridge and pct as well as a few weeks after the pct.

Good luck

I won't touch on the depression side and will let the experienced guys explain more on that.

As for your question on what to expect, that is a question that cannot really be answered. Pretty much awesome pumps and growth is expected along with some fat being dropped. These are not set in stone expectancies though, it all depends on your training, dieting and dedication of course.

I agree with Jono77 as well, state of mind is important. I think PCT can possibly make matters worse for you, but I'm no professional and will rather wait on the experienced guys to comment further.

On Nebido your in for a damn long wait for anything and everything to happen.

I'm pretty close to my goal and have built a good strong base and shape naturally I'm not relying on the cycle to make me blow up just to refine and drop the little fat I do have while maintaining and maybe slightly building on weak points..

pumps have been intense and I'm dropping fat and building my side delts(only weak point)

I'm using tbols proviron and nebido

K_illa wrote: I'm using tbols proviron and nebido

At what dosages? You haven't really told us much besides what compounds you're using, no dossages, durations, frequencies etc?

Nebido 1000mg/4ml once a month(lasts all month)

Tbols 2 15 mins before preworkout meal

Proviron 1 in evening with snack

K_illa wrote: Nebido 1000mg/4ml once a month(lasts all month)

Tbols 2 15 mins before preworkout meal

Proviron 1 in evening with snack

WOw, are you talking kak or is this it?

Nope this is what I'm on.. whats wrong with it?

i don't think it's too late to change your test to a test cyp. Maybe one of the vet's can confirm?

I'll stick to what I'm on for now.. I'm not looking at blowing up... I've lost fat and picked up 5kgs already so I' happy.. like I said I just wanted to keep what I have and lose fat, so far ahead of my goal

to be honest,i dont see the issue with using nebido as your test source, but please realize it has a massive half life, so because it is a super long ester testosterone, there is alot of armotisation of testosterone to estrogen, so i would get on at least 0.5mg of adex 2-3x a week to keep estrogen side effects down, proviron isnt going to be enough for this.

i want you to know that it is going to take at a long time before you can start your pct, its hard to to work it out really, cos you want your exogenous test levels to be lower than 100mg before you can look at starting your pct. so this makes things difficult to work out.

but if it is working for you than stick with it.

how long are you planning on running this? i would do at least 3 months on the nebido to see great results seeing it takes so long to really get working.

I'r running it for 6 months, I'm going to have a shot every 3 weeks to make sure levels are stable then switch to something strong test wise and run a normal pct

that is quite a long period of time to be on for your first cycle, i would cut it down to 3 months and switch to test prop for 6 weeks and then try look at doing your pct. and also over lapping the injections every 3 weeks vs every 4 is going to have a massive increase in testosterone circulating, i would even do 2.5mls of the 5mls every 2 weeks vs doing the full amount every 3-4 weeks. thats my personal feeling and i would definitely add in arimadex into this cycle.