Intermediate lean mass and strength cycle

Hi Guys,
New to this page and already starting to like the community and how you guys help each other out with no hating.
I have wet my toes in the waters of talked about substances in the past and would like to start again.
I already lost +/- 8kg to start prepping for this adventure.

Current Stats:

29yo
1.85m @ 90kg
16% bodyfat

Outcome:
90kg @ 10-12% bodyfat

I’m not competing in any way, just looking for a better physique.
I train 5 days a week

Chest
Shoulders
Arms,tries and back
Legs
Chest

Reason for training chest twice a week is because i struggle hell of alot to get my chest game strong.
Where i just look at my arms and they grow.

So reading through all the material provided in the sample section, I decided to go with the intermediate cycle.

I only have 2 questions:

My diet is ketogenic as My body does not respond to carbs cery well.
Will this affect the gains in anyway?
Or will I get away with complex carbs not clinging around the gut?

Then, how is this cycle on gyno?
I tend to accumulate fat around my chest and thats the most stubborn fat for me.

I also see ppl not very fond of nomad and cicc pharm on this website.
I have been using mostly their products, I assume you know where i get them from lol.

Do you think I should try out the brands that are suggested in the sample cycle?

Looking forward to your advice

Welcome to the forum?

How many cycles have you done before? The intermediate cycles are not for beginners just starting out.

Yes, use the recommend brands.

Hi Admin,

Thanks for the prompt response.

1st cycle -> Test cyp+dbol
2nd cycle -> Dbol only cycle
3rd cycle -> Anavar only
Then the occasional use of Clen and Yohimbe.

These are all in a period of 10 years

I have checked out the beginner cycles but they are all oral based.
Which I want to steer away of and rather use liquid.

Like I said I only have access to Nomad and Cicc at the moment.

Its a great cycle. Primo is hellish expensive though, especially at those ranges. Have you thought about Equipoise, Masteron or NPP at all? Equipoise and NPP for nice clean bulk. Masteron for leaning out.

I'm currently on an 8 week NPP 300mg/week and Test cyp 250mg/week, I'll finish off with Anavar at 60mg/day for 5 weeks. It's been a really nice cycle with zero sides so far, only mass gain has been clean LBM.

If you're looking to cut body fat why not try a Test Cyp, Masteron, Anavar cycle?

Good luck.

Just worked out the price now.....daaaamn thats alot of moola for primo.
New that it was expensive but not that much...guess you pay for what you get.

Will DM you

Basically looking to add lbm and further lean out.
Will masteron be a good idea if I’m no %10+ bf??

What is your pct going to look like?
Any AI?

So its tough to add mass and lean out. I like the same goal so I use anavar at the end of the cycle to lean out. You don't have many cycles so I would also limit the products used.

I find Masteron is ok at a higher body fat %. Obviously you don't get the best out of it but it still leans you out nicely, my only issue with masteron is that I tend to get a bit tetchy around the end of the cycle, even at 300-400mg/week and the effects are very subtle. You'll think nothing is happening then look in the mirror at week 9 and realise the change.

The two cycles I would suggest you look at.

A nice basic cycle.
Weeks 1-10 - Test cyp @ 250-300/week
Weeks 1-10 - Masteron @ 300mg/week
Weeks 10-14 - Anavar @ 40-60mg/day. Use some essential extreme or similar liver supplement.
Weeks 6-14 Hcg @ 250 iu x 2 or 3/week or 500iux2/week
Week 15 Clomid x 100mg/day
Week 16 on - Nolvadex, 20mg/day.
AI on hand if you like, but these are fairly moderate doses. Probably best to have if you need but don't take it as a matter of course.

Number 2 - a bit more advanced but good for strength and nice lbm at moderate doses.
Weeks 1-10 - Test cyp @ 250-300/week
Weeks 1-10 - NPP @ 300mg/week. You could do this for 8 weeks, but 10 works.
Weeks 10-14 - Anavar @ 40-60mg/day. Use some essential extreme or similar liver supplement.
Weeks 6-14 Hcg @ 250 iu x 2 or 3/week or 500iux2/week
Week 15 Clomid x 100mg/day
Week 16 on - Nolvadex, 20mg/day.
AI on hand if you like, as above though.

Prolactin is a concern with Deca. A lot of what I am reading now is that high prolactin sides are more prevalent when estrogen is high, which shouldn't happen on the doses above. If you feel concerned then again it might be an idea to have some ancillaries on hand. As I said, at 250mg Test c and 300mg NPP/week, I have had no sides at all, in fact I've felt great. Libido is literally through the roof as well. But that's me, you can't trust "broscience" so do some research on it.

Have a look around and do some research on these stacks to see if you think it'll suit you.
Cheers

Did some research and decided on the test-c + NPP.
Is NPP available in any higher dosage than 100mg/ml?
Just asking cuz that cycle is 4ml of oil lol
Thanks in advance

PGW NPP is at 150mg/ml. Test c usually 250 but also 200. Minimum to inject NPP is twice a week, Monday evening, Friday morning or something like that. So split your shots into 2. Say 1ml NPP and .75ml test C. Or 1ml Npp and 0.5ml Test C each shot. Enjoy..

3rd week into cycle and all is going good!!
Just have 1 problem, I can only get Nandolone Deca.
Connection does not have stock and the supplier is closed.....any advise to what to do?

The half-life of NPP is pretty short....and deca pretty long.

Help??