Cycle advice please

Hey I've been a member of this site a good while now and would like to thank the people for the solid advice I would not have been able to find at other places over the years I've been training and learning and still do

I've done 2 cycles previously (one each year)
First cycle:20mg Dbols per day for the first 4 weeks
350mg deca per week
400mg test ethanate per week
Pct containing nolva, HCG and had Amiridex for incase
Didn't have any harsh side effects except for mild acne and water retention cycle lasted 10 weeks

The second cycle should of been my first consisted of Sustanon 250 pinning every other day for 12 weeks pct that I started to soon but what have consisted of HCG and nolvadex
Didn't expiernce any side effects during the cycle but had bad case of chest acne during the pct

Where I'm at now: I'm 31 been training for six years paid a personal trainer diet and trained hard gotton my body fat to 4.6 about a month ago and started taking an interest in competing after our town had its first local bodybuilding comp.

I've started bulking now gradually increasing my calory intake and was thinking about doing a bulking cycle consisting of Tren E and test cyp 1 ml of each per week using esters with longer halfllives so I don't have to pin EOD and then using the pct protocol 3 that's on this forum, but after some research ive read that people that have not used tren before should rather use tren acetate because of its shorter half life and to determine how you react to tren before trying tren ethanate, didn't want to pin EOD now I'm looking for advice thought about running test cyp with equipose for ten weeks using Pct protocol 2. The brands for the different components I'm looking to use is as follows PGW for the anabolics LP for the anti estrogen and HD labs for the HCG.

Any advice about Tren from more experienced users would be appreciated would like to know if its something I can use in the future maybe or should I rather stay away from it

Hey there

From your cycle history. Looks like your only have 2 cycles under your Belt. I would suggest a few more cycles before you jump on to tren. Leave that for last when all other anabolics have been fully utilized.

Test and eq is a good combo. Look at the sample cycles section. Run the eq & test long enough 14wks+

On brands you good to go with the mentioned above

Thanks will follow your advice just one last question is 10 weeks to short to run a propper test and eq cycle gonna go look at the lean muscle sample cycle now thanks

Maximus542 wrote: Thanks will follow your advice just one last question is 10 weeks to short to run a propper test and eq cycle gonna go look at the lean muscle sample cycle now thanks

I read the Drug profile on equipoise and it suggested a cycle of 14 to 16 weeks using atleast 400mg per week

Another option could be Testosterone, Masteron and NPP. Just read the profiles carefully and run the minimum effective dosages the first time round and remember Caber/Cabaser with any 19nor compound even NPP.

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: Another option could be Testosterone, Masteron and NPP. Just read the profiles carefully and run the minimum effective dosages the first time round and remember Caber/Cabaser with any 19nor compound even NPP.

Thanks for the advice Rooi Bul I've read in some post people suggesting Cabaser but don't know much about it will have to read up on it...... At this point its back to the drawing board for me I really wana pack on some good size now but will have to put away some more money first

+1 man.

There is no substitute for knowledge and experience in this game. You are making the right decision by rather educating yourself and by saving to have enough to buy a proper cycle with all the correct supporting compounds and your pct that is the correct approach.

While you are saving and reading up take that time end experiment with food quantities food types as well as timing of certain food types. Timing of nutrients and using carb cycling and even calorie cycling has helped me a huge amount in the last 3 years.

I have some experience with Carb cycling and intermediate fasting, learned alot from the trainer I hired over the last couple of months and this is the leanest I've ever gotten in the 6 years I've trained,at this point I'm adjusted my carbs so that do not gain more than a kg a week keeping my protein intake high, I have not always wanted to do this at a competitive level but I love training and really want to make a success of it as far as my body will let me..... Thanks for the solid advice I still have so much to learn but it makes it a hell of alot easier with the advice I get here and from guys like you that are willing to help the uninformed masses like myself hahaha but ja I've grown alot more conscious about what I put into my body and would rather wait a few months extra instead of just running a cycle it's still alot of money might aswell do it right and get the results made a lot of stupid mistakes before that could of been avoided if I was just abit more pasient and not so hard headed

Nice advice RB. I've noticed alot of people forget the food side when not on cycle and wonder why they're losing size or gaining fat off cycle.

Experimenting with these now will be awesome if you find which approach/method/diet works best for you. This will only be more effective on cycle and also make your cycle more effective.

Good luck Maximus wishing you all the best and success when you finally hit the stage. With your current mindset i'm sure you'll do nothing but succeed at what you're doing

Hoosain wrote: Nice advice RB. I've noticed alot of people forget the food side when not on cycle and wonder why they're losing size or gaining fat off cycle.

Experimenting with these now will be awesome if you find which approach/method/diet works best for you. This will only be more effective on cycle and also make your cycle more effective.

Good luck Maximus wishing you all the best and success when you finally hit the stage. With your current mindset i'm sure you'll do nothing but succeed at what you're doing

Thanks Hoosain still just got to get pass the stage fright been practicing my poses and still finding it abit hard without a mirror

Maximus542 wrote:

Hoosain wrote: Nice advice RB. I've noticed alot of people forget the food side when not on cycle and wonder why they're losing size or gaining fat off cycle.

Experimenting with these now will be awesome if you find which approach/method/diet works best for you. This will only be more effective on cycle and also make your cycle more effective.

Good luck Maximus wishing you all the best and success when you finally hit the stage. With your current mindset i'm sure you'll do nothing but succeed at what you're doing

Thanks Hoosain still just got to get pass the stage fright been practicing my poses and still finding it abit hard without a mirror

I believe that is one of the things most struggle with at their first show.
One of my buddies is well built and should have taken 1st place at his first show. However he had stage fright and he struggled with the poses as well. he placed 2nd and after the show had one of the judges come over and tell him that his posing lost him 1st place. He finally got someone to help him with poses and has been placed 1st at quite a few shows after.

So once again it's clear you're on the right track buddy and a win is sure to come your way. Hopefully there is someone who can give you some pointers as well.

Not at this point no only a guy I know at gym that competed twice before asked him for advice and he was nice enough to show me the poses but will keep my ear on the ground for some one maybe a bit more expiernced that can help me better and hopefully not charge to much