Primo, Testo Cyp with Ipamorelin cycle

So, for my next cycle I’m using primo for the first time and incorporating Ipamorelin with it.
Based on lots of advice to guys on the forum from Empire and Oupa I’ve put together this cycle. Any advice or tweaks is welcome.
Goal is to lean out and pack on a good amount of lean muscle. Decided not to go with a heavy cycle this time round to keep my health in check.

On a side note, EU Pharma sent me Primo Acetate even though I ordered Enanthate. It’s a lot cheaper, but it’s only 125mg. Spoke to them about it and they’ve told me it’s a bugger-up with the packaging I can rest assured it’s Enanthate. So let’s hope. Also have PGW Primo.

Weel 1-4
Dbol kickstarter @ 30mg/day doesnt do much so I’m ramping it up a bit to 15mg x 3/day
TestoCyp 250mg Primo 250mg Monday and Thursday
Proviron 20mg/day
Aromasin 5mg ED

Weel 4-8
Tbol 40mg/day
Proviron 20mg/day
TestoCyp 250mg Primo 400mg Monday and Thursday

Weel 8-13
Tbol 40mg/day
Proviron 40mg/day
Anavar 60mg/day
TestoCyp 250mg Primo 400mg Monday and Thursday

Weel 13-15
Proviron 40mg/day
Anavar 60mg/day

The Ipamorelin I’m pinning 0.15 twice a day morning and evening throughout the cycle. Total of 300mcg/ day. Might bump it up further into the cycle to 450mcg/day.

Will it be good to introduce HcG into the cycle or rather wait for pct?

TOTAL MG DOSE TO START YOUR CYCLE SHOULD BE 7.5MG PER KG AND THEN GO UP TO 10MG PER KG.

lets go with this example.

if you are a 100kgs. you need between 750mg and 1000 total mg total mg over a period of time.

set your testosterone dose at 2.5-3mg per kg.

so let's use 2.5mg for this example. test starts at 250mg, and goes up to 300mg or can stay at 250mg. i would say stay at 250mg.

so you are sitting with 550mg of anabolics up to 750mg of anabolics.

week 1-5
test 250mg.
primo 200mg.
total 450

week 6-10
test 250mg
primo 300mg.
total 550mg

week 10-15
test 250mg
primo 400mg
total 650mg.

you now have room to play with orals.
week 1-5
test 250mg.
primo 200mg.
anavar 40mg daily (280mg per week)
total 730

week 6-10
test 250mg
primo 300mg.
anavar 40mg daily (280mg per week)
total 830mg

week 10-15
test 250mg
primo 400mg
anavar 40mg daily (280mg per week)
total 930mg.

adding in 20mg of Proviron daily from the start and increasing by 20mg every 5 weeks will be a great start, that way you accumulate more over time, and allow slow adaptions for fewer health concerns.

that is a way better way to cycle.

Thanks Empire. Really appreciate the advice. So the Tbol? Do i keep it the way i had it? And also the HcG? Introduce somewhere in the middle to keep the factory going or wait for pct rather?

you can do half tbol and half Anavar actually, a low dose of each over a long period of time would probably provide an amazing result! I have seen guys gain like 2 to 3kgs of LBM on 20mg Anavar a day for 10 weeks and lose about the 5 to 6kgs in body fat, so it works well. The major thing is the total MG per kg per week, most people overdo it, and too much too fast. I'm not saying higher doses dont have a place in the world, but I think we push the mg dosing.

I mean people on this forum start their cycles with 500-600mg of test and 500 to 700mg of anabolics. that's just a blanket cycle when 200 to 250mg of test and 200mg to 300mg of anabolics would be way easier to deal with in the body.

a guy at 110 to 125kgs would be able to handle that dose, but there are guys on here 80kgs doing those doses and its reckless. I shudder when I see some of the sample cycles with total mg doses these days. and i have used a fuckload of gear a week,20mg per kg easy at times, how ever i respond way better to the lower doses cos my training is so good these days.

Thank you Empire. Im weigh a 100kg now. I'll stick with this dosing protocol and keep you update you on the progress. Tnx again this really is helpful.

what is the goal? Lean bulk? cut?

More a lean bulk than cut.

current calorie intake?

Maintenance was 2800
Increasing to 3350

Great read Empire.
Thank You