First Cycle options

Hi guys

Not sure if I'm allowed to state brand names. So I will just refer to UGL and/or Pharma

First of I'm 29, and have been training for 8 years.

My current stats are as follows:
Height - 1.9 M
Weight - 88 KG
BF - 10.2%
Calories - 3500

My goal is to add lean muscle and thus I want to keep it as basic as possible.

Option1 UGL:

Week 1-12
Test Cyp 250mg 1ml every 4 days

Week 6-12
1 x proviron 25mg per day

PCT
HCG 5000
Clomid
Nolvadex

Option 2 Pharma:
Week 1-12
Depo Test 200mg 1ml twice a week

Week 6-12
1 x Proviron 25mg per day

PCT
HCG 5000
Clomid
Nolvadex

For both options, I will keep Armidex on hand.

I also intend to increase my calories by 500 per day.

Which option sounds best and any advice?

Thanks

I have asked a guy in the gym here who supplies but his cycle and pricing sounded a bit off.

He advised

Week 1 - 12
Test E 350 1ml twice a week

Proviron 25mg 3 x per day from week 1

PCT
Clomid
Nolvadex

With your stats 300mg test a week is a good start. Proviron dosed @75mg each day is not need. Anywhere btween 40 to 50mg a day is good for 6 to 8 weeks.

Is this your first cycle?

Oupa wrote: With your stats 300mg test a week is a good start. Proviron dosed @75mg each day is not need. Anywhere btween 40 to 50mg a day is good for 6 to 8 weeks.

Is this your first cycle?

Thank you, yes it will be my first cycle.

What brand are you using?

Oupa wrote: What brand are you using?

I haven’t bought it yet, I’m looking at either Pfizer or PGW for UGL.

1ml PGW test @ 300mg is perfect. I would kickoff on 300mg test for 4 weeks, you might get some test flue and shit but ride it out. Stay healthy. Then from week 4 up your test to 450mg per week. 1.5ml. Keep your dose level on that if all is good, and then add your Provirons towards the last 8 weeks & end of the cycle.

Oupa wrote: 1ml PGW test @ 300mg is perfect. I would kickoff on 300mg test for 4 weeks, you might get some test flue and shit but ride it out. Stay healthy. Then from week 4 up your test to 450mg per week. 1.5ml. Keep your dose level on that if all is good, and then add your Provirons towards the last 8 weeks & end of the cycle.

Thank you very much, I will do. How often should I pin then ?

JohanVf77 wrote:

Oupa wrote: 1ml PGW test @ 300mg is perfect. I would kickoff on 300mg test for 4 weeks, you might get some test flue and shit but ride it out. Stay healthy. Then from week 4 up your test to 450mg per week. 1.5ml. Keep your dose level on that if all is good, and then add your Provirons towards the last 8 weeks & end of the cycle.

Thank you very much, I will do. How often should I pin then ?

Every 4th day is the best for what you want to achieve, and dont add other shit or lend your ears out. Stay on the cycle like this.

Oupa wrote:

JohanVf77 wrote:

Oupa wrote: 1ml PGW test @ 300mg is perfect. I would kickoff on 300mg test for 4 weeks, you might get some test flue and shit but ride it out. Stay healthy. Then from week 4 up your test to 450mg per week. 1.5ml. Keep your dose level on that if all is good, and then add your Provirons towards the last 8 weeks & end of the cycle.

Thank you very much, I will do. How often should I pin then ?

Every 4th day is the best for what you want to achieve, and dont add other shit or lend your ears out. Stay on the cycle like this.

Thank you very much for the advice, I will do.

oupa giving you solid advice on the cycle so no comment there. but increasing calories by 500 per day? typo right?

jooceboi456 wrote: oupa giving you solid advice on the cycle so no comment there. but increasing calories by 500 per day? typo right?

Ha ha no it’s not a typo, I will try and see what works best. If an increase of 500 leads to bf gain then I will cut back. I live a very active lifestyle, that’s why I’m not gaining on 3500 calories a day. I’m tracking portions with a scale, and Lifesum app.

lol my bad i dunno why i thought you were gonna increase by 500 calories as each day goes by. sounded so ridiculous

jooceboi456 wrote: lol my bad i dunno why i thought you were gonna increase by 500 calories as each day goes by. sounded so ridiculous

Ha ha damn that would have been impossible after the first week ????

to be honest for your first cycle you would be able to get away with 200mg of testosterone for 6 weeks and then up it to 300mg for the remainder of the 1 bottle. so 0.7ml for 6 weeks is about 4mls then go to 1 ml for the balance. that will give you a 12 week cycle on 1 bottle.

Thank you very much

I go back to when I started out, 1 vial of depatrone (200mg) a week and I made silly gains..