Ostarine vs lgd 4033

For those of you that have experience with these 2.
What do you think gives better results for a first timer.
8wk cycle of Lgd4033 at 10mg
Or an 8wk cycle of ostarine at 20mg.

What are you wanting to achieve?

Personally I dont think Ostarine is worth the effort in most circumstances and would just use LGD or RAD or just gear.

What you use though will depend on your goals. To make the most out of the cycles you need to put in as much effort as possible.

I'm looking to gain a couple kgs of muscle.
Yeah, thanks I'm leaning towards lgd.
Apologies if I have come off short with my post, I have read and looked into this extensively.
Not looking to be spoofed, looking for experienced guys' opinions.

Donatello wrote: I'm looking to gain a couple kgs of muscle.
Yeah, thanks I'm leaning towards lgd.
Apologies if I have come off short with my post, I have read and looked into this extensively.
Not looking to be spoofed, looking for experienced guys' opinions.

What is your reasoning for using SARMS as opposed to AAS?

With aas (like test c) the waiting time for the ester to clear is 36 days and then pct starts.
I've heard this bridge period and then recovering your natural test production during pct, can be very difficult. Lots of guys have physical and mental issues here.
From my research and some logs I've seen, sarms generally suppress your T levels, but unlike Test (and other aas) they (generally) do not shut you down fully. Therefore pct is usually easier, as recovering T levels from low levels, back to normal is a lot easier than recovering T levels from fully shut down back to normal levels.

Donatello wrote: With aas (like test c) the waiting time for the ester to clear is 36 days and then pct starts.
I've heard this bridge period and then recovering your natural test production during pct, can be very difficult. Lots of guys have physical and mental issues here.
From my research and some logs I've seen, sarms generally suppress your T levels, but unlike Test (and other aas) they (generally) do not shut you down fully. Therefore pct is usually easier, as recovering T levels from low levels, back to normal is a lot easier than recovering T levels from fully shut down back to normal levels.

I'm curious to see where you found out that they are not suppressive. Sarms, especially LGD and RAD 140 are extremely supressive and it is well known in the literature. You should not run a SARM solo because it suppresses your Testosterone which eventually suppresses oestrogen and you will feel terrible.
Ostarine might not be as suppressive but the dose required for it not to be supressive is 1mg daily, because in the large study 3mg daily showed it was slightly supressive.

I would not run SARMs alone if you are looking to gain the most out of a cycle. Would you rather be suppressed with LGD/Ostarine and get minimal results or with a good mass builder like Testosterone. The Choice is yours.

I've experimented with low tose T (250mg/wk) and LGD 4033 with MK677 in the past and had great results in terms of size/weight gain and strength.

Not so much an aesthetics look though, like some AAS where you literally look 10kg's heavier with a pump.

Tbh i think a good beginner cycle for absolute newbies these days are 300mg test a week and 40mg anavar a day. I've used sarms and i can say safely anavar shits on rad(same gains but anavar = extra fat loss/more prominent increase in metabolism). Im sorry but real sarms like the good ones back in the day when it was legal, was good. The stuff now is garbage imo. Cardarine and MK still works but rad140 5mg feels like 1mgs 2018 OTC Rad140.

the anavar will work if training is in check
the test will work if diet is in check,
all 4 in check and ur off to good steady gains.

Lesdoctor, thanks so much for your response. I value your insight and will keep that in mind.
I am aware sarms decrease natural T production. My understanding is (and I'm speaking generally here) the difference is sarms will decrease your natural T down to low levels, whereas aas will shut your natural T production down completely.
I am also aware that towards the end of a sarm only cycle, when T (and estrogen) is low I can expect to get some side effects.

I hear what you are saying about test and you make valid points. I have a (likely irrational) fear of test as I have a mate who ran test many years back, developed gyno and was self conscious about it and he recently paid a small fortune to get it removed.
I am usually a logical thinker, but for some reason I'm struggling with this issue and therefore hesitant to try a testosterone cycle.

Thanks DruOmedra and Vlad.
Yeah, seems lowish dose of test is a good way to start with aas.
I know in my head, test is the right thing, trouble is I'm afraid of it, well not the test, the potential for developing gyno.

Hi, Donatello.

I have done many SARM cycles since they became available in SA, done blood work to see how suppressive and liver damaging they are.

You are correct in saying they are suppressive but do not shut you down.

In your case just wanting to add decent lean muscle and as you say only a few kg of it, I would suggest you look into Male Hybrid Ripped it is well put together and the 3 DHT compounds in it work synergystically. It was designed to not shut you down and to be very safe and for guys not wanting to do classic or hard core cycles and who do not want to inject.

Thanks Rooi Bul.

Started lgd cycle, a few days in now.
@admin,should I do updates here or should I start a new topic?

Donatello wrote: @admin,should I do updates here or should I start a new topic?

Its better to start a new thread because it’s a new topic.