Post Cycle bloods

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12 Oct 2021 17:28 #226242 by Apoc21
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Hi All, Posting on behalf of a friend.

He did the basic Dbol and Test beginner bulking cycle on the site but instead of injecting every 5th day it would be on day 7. After that he completed the pct no 2 as recommended on the sample.

Stats:

35 yrs
male
85kg

Its been now about a month after the pct and he is complaining about symptoms that I personally experienced from low T.

I encouraged him to get bloods done and this is the results:

PSA - 1ng/ml (0.0 - 4.0)
E2 - 55pmol/L (<192)
TT - 13.8 nmol/L (8.0 - 30.0)
FT - 316 pmol/L (180 - 739)
SHBG - 26.7 nmol/L (18.3 - 54.1)
FSH - 1.9U/L (1.5 - 12.4)

in my opinion the levels look lower than ideal but rather asking on here for more educated advice.

Are the levels okay?
Should he re-do the pct?
Consider doing trt with a doc?
Any other advice?

Thanks in advance!

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12 Oct 2021 18:10 #226244 by 00pump
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Does he have data prior to cycle? At 35 he probably needs a far lengthier PCT, keep going and test again 2 months down the line and let's see if its up, if it's up go another 2 months and again see if its where it should be.. Recovery can be a very slow process, studies show right up to 2 years (most by a year) but you get the picture.

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13 Oct 2021 11:08 #226247 by Apoc21
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Unfortunately didnt do bloods before the cycle. But this was his first cycle. Would you say do PCT2 again?

Out of interest:
I have read in previous posts that a good indicator for cycling is cycle on time = cycle off time atleast before going into another cycle. But if recovery takes up to 2 years how does that affect things doing another cycle before fully recovered?

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13 Oct 2021 14:49 #226248 by Muscleaddict
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Those bloods look perfectly fine for a month after PCT. Very few guys are close the the 20 nmol/L TT ideal for 2-3 months post PCT. An important thing guys must realise is that after having sky high testosterone levels for a few months, a couple of months post cycle you are NOT going to feel the same with a FT - 316 pmol/L as you did before the cycle with exactly the same testosterone levels.

Kind of like after you drive a 250Kw sports car, a 100Kw car never quite feels as good again.

At 35, even with completely normal testosterone levels you can expect to have lower libido and general drive for quite a few months at least while your body adjusts and finds homeostasis. PCT is not a magic fix.

This becomes even more apparent if you use stronger steroids like tren.
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13 Oct 2021 14:52 #226249 by Apoc21
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The car analogy makes complete sense. Thanks.

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13 Oct 2021 14:56 #226250 by Muscleaddict
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I realise now my post might come off as quite pessimistic, but just give it more time. It's normal for his age. There's nothing wrong with him. Tell him to try some longjack, ashwaganda, fenugreek natural T/libido boosters. They do help.

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13 Oct 2021 14:58 #226251 by Apoc21
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Muscleaddict wrote: I realise now my post might come off as quite pessimistic, but just give it more time. It's normal for his age. There's nothing wrong with him. Tell him to try some longjack, ashwaganda, fenugreek natural T/libido boosters. They do help.


Post didnt come off that way.

He obviously wants to do another cycle. I told him to wait first. When would be an ideal time to do another cycle?

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