First cycle- LGD with test base?

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27 Nov 2021 19:27 #226451 by Newb92
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I am sorry to be asking a question that has probably been answered before. I have been researching for a while now, but there are so many contradicting information out there. I have never used anything except creatine etc. so I am cautious to say the least, but I think im ready to take the next step.

I am 29, 1.91m, 106kg. Would estimate my bodyfat at around 12%.

I have not done extensive blood work yet (planning on doing so), but as far as normal health markers go, i am very healthy (just slightly high genetic cholesterol). I have had visible abs as long as i can remember, but i have never been shredded. I have been training for powerlifting the past 2 years. Lifts are 245kg squat, 300kg deadlift, 160kg bench. Hope this back-round helps a bit.

Initially i wanted to do a 10mg/day Ligandrol 8 week cycle only, but from what i have read, it seems that a test base should be administered. So i am thinking of adding 300mg/week of test enanthate also for 8 weeks. There after a clomid and nolvadex pct cycle (30 days post cycle for 45 days)

I am happily married and im terrified of what this will do to my sex life. Also we are planning on having children within the next two years.

Can i please get some advice on whether the cycle makes sense and what the extent of the test suppression side effects are just so that i can prepare myself for what is to come.

Thanks in advance

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27 Nov 2021 23:40 #226452 by MPhilosopher
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Newb92 wrote: I am sorry to be asking a question that has probably been answered before. I have been researching for a while now, but there are so many contradicting information out there. I have never used anything except creatine etc. so I am cautious to say the least, but I think im ready to take the next step.

I am 29, 1.91m, 106kg. Would estimate my bodyfat at around 12%.

I have not done extensive blood work yet (planning on doing so), but as far as normal health markers go, i am very healthy (just slightly high genetic cholesterol). I have had visible abs as long as i can remember, but i have never been shredded. I have been training for powerlifting the past 2 years. Lifts are 245kg squat, 300kg deadlift, 160kg bench. Hope this back-round helps a bit.

Initially i wanted to do a 10mg/day Ligandrol 8 week cycle only, but from what i have read, it seems that a test base should be administered. So i am thinking of adding 300mg/week of test enanthate also for 8 weeks. There after a clomid and nolvadex pct cycle (30 days post cycle for 45 days)

I am happily married and im terrified of what this will do to my sex life. Also we are planning on having children within the next two years.

Can i please get some advice on whether the cycle makes sense and what the extent of the test suppression side effects are just so that i can prepare myself for what is to come.

Thanks in advance


Well if starting a family is a priority you need to think this through.
No one can risk assess for you, you will have to decide on that.

LGD? I don't see a good enough argument to use that. Anavar and test will be plenty, otherwise just test and an AI (appropriate dosage if needed) is fine.

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28 Nov 2021 05:27 #226453 by Empire
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Firstly, 8 week cycles are a bit of a waste of time really, you would honestly get away with running 0.7ml of test a week (200mg) for 14 weeks vs LGD and 300mg of test for 8 weeks. And at that does you should really not need any form of AI. If cholesterol is family issue, any steroid is going to mess with your Lipid panel, it's just the nature of the beast.

There are studies done of running anavar at 20mg a day for I think 10 weeks and guys losing body fat and gaining muscle on that. Something like 6Lbs of muscle gain and 5Lb of fat loss if I can remember. So rather run your test at 210mg per week for longer, and then run after 6 weeks anavar at 20mg a day for 5 weeks then anavar up to 40mg a day for 5 weeks. That is probably going to have the least suppressing effects and you will get back to normal on a basic pct.

Longer, lower, slower gains are more maintainable.
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28 Nov 2021 15:26 #226455 by Newb92
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Thanks! I appreciate the feed back. Definitely still weighing up the risks.

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28 Nov 2021 15:30 #226456 by Newb92
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Thanks for the advice. I was hoping to dip my toe into the PED pool as gently as possible, but i guess if I want to do it, do it properly. Thanks so much for te response. Appreciate it

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28 Nov 2021 18:12 #226457 by Empire
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Newb92 wrote: Thanks for the advice. I was hoping to dip my toe into the PED pool as gently as possible, but i guess if I want to do it, do it properly. Thanks so much for te response. Appreciate it


Running lower dose, longer periods is defiantly dipping toes in slowly, 200mg of test a week is a good try dose, so you can grow nicely. Adding in a compound such as anavar to that will allow recovery to be pretty quick.

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29 Nov 2021 21:33 #226460 by Donatello
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Checkout my recent log, I ran a 10mg per week lgd cycle.
I gave detailed feedback of my experience.
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30 Nov 2021 08:13 #226464 by Newb92
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Thanks! Really helps!

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