4th Cycle Help

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20 Jan 2022 16:08 #226685 by JayKay35
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Hey Peeps

Looking for some honest advise. Finished my third cycle and completed PCT last year October but i think i got a bit greedy and added to many compounds. Took forever to recover and felt like shit. Libido was shot to hell. I still trained my ass off and kept my diet in check so never lost to much after PCT. I have fully recovered for the most part snd blood levels seem stable and i can finally stop making excuses to the wife :( I want start another cycle next month but am now just going to keep it simple going forward, maybe test only with simple kick start, however my brain is telling me i am going to regress or not see any benefit going back to a basic cycle. Any thoughts gents?

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20 Jan 2022 17:35 #226686 by Muscleaddict
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It sounds obvious but guys do put too much expectation on the steroids and the doses they use instead of diet, recovery and training technique. I genuinely looked my best ever on half the doses I used when I was younger.

Unfortunately the libido thing always takes a few months or more to get back to normal. Especially longer with deca/npp/tren. Cialis helps. It's hard not eventually get in the mood when you're rock hard.

What are you planning to use?
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20 Jan 2022 21:41 #226691 by JayKay35
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Hey Bro, i made the mistake of thinking more is better and was felling by great at the time. Ran test/deca for 12 weeks snd then added some test prop and Tren ace and winstrol at the end for another 6 weeks. Felt like superman and based what i was running on how i felt, but coming off was terrible snd the sides almost where not worth it in the end. Thinking just to keep it simple at maybe 300mg to 400mg test e a week for 12 weeks with a dbol kicker. I am never going to compete so health should come first i suppose, i reckon that will be much more sustainable in the long run. Any other suggestions on good cycles that wont cost an arm and a leg?

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21 Jan 2022 09:29 #226696 by 00pump
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JayKay35 wrote: Hey Bro, i made the mistake of thinking more is better and was felling by great at the time. Ran test/deca for 12 weeks snd then added some test prop and Tren ace and winstrol at the end for another 6 weeks. Felt like superman and based what i was running on how i felt, but coming off was terrible snd the sides almost where not worth it in the end. Thinking just to keep it simple at maybe 300mg to 400mg test e a week for 12 weeks with a dbol kicker. I am never going to compete so health should come first i suppose, i reckon that will be much more sustainable in the long run. Any other suggestions on good cycles that wont cost an arm and a leg?


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21 Jan 2022 11:25 #226697 by syntax
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You could look at a test / NPP cycle as well with relatively conservative dosages.

I get good results from test and tbol. I used to run 500 - 600 a week but have lately found a sweet spot around 300 a week and 40mg tbol for 4 weeks or so. Very little sides and decent results
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21 Jan 2022 11:51 #226698 by Muscleaddict
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JayKay35 wrote: Hey Bro, i made the mistake of thinking more is better and was felling by great at the time. Ran test/deca for 12 weeks snd then added some test prop and Tren ace and winstrol at the end for another 6 weeks. Felt like superman and based what i was running on how i felt, but coming off was terrible snd the sides almost where not worth it in the end. Thinking just to keep it simple at maybe 300mg to 400mg test e a week for 12 weeks with a dbol kicker. I am never going to compete so health should come first i suppose, i reckon that will be much more sustainable in the long run. Any other suggestions on good cycles that wont cost an arm and a leg?


I don't think I'll use deca again either. Recovery takes longer for sure on 19-nors. With Tren even at only 120mg/week last year it took me 3 months to get normal libido back even though I was still running TRT dose of test. But I'm ok with that.

Try the 300ish per week with dbol/tbol kickstarter and maybe 30mg Winny to finish off the cycle to dry you out and show off the detail and striations.

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05 Apr 2022 14:37 #227198 by NOmeth17
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For some weird reason proviron has worked so well for me although initially I was using it for estrogen it worked I other areas as well. I just can't do without it :)

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