Next Cycle discussion

Happy Monday all,

My next blast is in the planning phase. I'm aware of the 3mg test per body weight advice that is on the table in the forums, and in keeping with being open to learning new things\ being teachable, i'm going to give this philosophy a try. (Normally i'd run test at least 500mg on a blast, so this new lower dose is quite out of my comfort zone. )

Anyway, at a modest 87kg the test dose would be 261mg. I feel more comfortable rounding that up to 300mg.

My question, based upon the 3mg\ kg, is what dose should i run my eq at. My understanding is EQ is best run at higher doseages.

At this stage I'm contemplating:
300MG test Cyp (12 weeks)
150MG Tren A (Tren A only for first 6 weeks or until Vial runs out)
300MG EQ (first 6 weeks)
500MG EQ (week 6 to 12)

49years old
1.78 M
87KG

Thanks, and regardz

Ok so you gotta know that equi and test are from the same family, both testosterone derivatives etc. So you gonna be using multiple test compounds with a 19nor. I would rather see you keep your test where it is, and instead of using equi use masteron or primo, and you can run that like for 16 weeks, if you want go for a 16 week cycle with a 19nor npp or deca would be better option. Remember, longer lower slower, combining multiple compounds is always better than 2 from the same family.

Also do doses based on mg per kg. So first 5 weeks 6mg per kg, 2nd 5 week 9mg per kg, then last 5 weeks 12mg per kg. Will make things way more sustainable..

ok, now I have maximum time to reply and not on my phone.

you say your test dose is 261mg and you want to round up to 300, why not round down to 250, and then you have room for other substances.

So let's look at the options here, you are 87kgs, so if you want to apply a reasonable amount of gear and you are nearly 50, I wouldn't go over 12mg per kg. I personally feel 10mg per kg per week is a better option.

Tren will wreck your lipid profile and can be harsh on the kidneys. Know what also can affect renal health? Equi. Also, both have been known to increase anxiety issues. Also, tren wrecks your sleep. so not gonna be great for recovery.

DHT substances seem to be way less harsh on those profiles, and deca/npp is way easier on the lipids and kidneys.

so if you play this out and you max out at 12mg per kg, 1044mg (1050 just for this example) you would break it down as follows.

starting dose : 6mg per kg 250mg test 150 deca/NPP, 150mg masteron or primo.
next bump up, 9mg per kg. 250mg test 250mg Deca/NPP, 250mg masteron or primo
last bump up, 12mg per kg: 250mg test 250mg Deca/NPP, 250mg masteron or primo and you could add in an oral at this stage based on performance aspects. Battling for the drive in the gym? anadrol/t-bol pre-workout. if you are battling more with recovery ANAVAR post-workout and before bed. or you could bump up the deca/npp dosage and the masteron primo dosage, all depending on which you are using.

personally, equi can be a great compound, but remember, each drug has a certain application. if you were an endurance athlete, then yeah sure, go for the equi option instead of test. from what I think you are looking at is lean hard muscle tissue with some size which is deca's favorite place to play.

then you look at the nutrition aspects: start your calories at a certain level, let's say 26kcal per kg, every time you go up in weight you add more food, every time you bump up the gear you add more food. New muscle tissue is going to need more calories. The more calories you take in, the more you grow.

training: make sure that you are able to recover, 4-5 weeks smashing heavy weights, 1 week 75% maximum volume and weight, back again. That will save your joints etc. Sleep, make sure that is good, so you can recover. With sleep an increase in food and smart training, you will be guaranteed to grow. its that simple

Thanks Empire. Lots to digest. I wanted to give NPP a skip as i ran it my last cycle.

I appreciate the detail your time and specific numbers you've suggested.

Hope its a great week for you.

NPP is a great staple to a cycle where muscle volume is wanted. I am busy prepping for my show and was reluctant to add tren in, and even then I'm maxing out at 100mg total. The current weight is 91.5kg with striated glutes. tren is hectic and can be harsh as hell.