Recovery & Fitness Cycle

Hi everyone. 
I would like to get some comments from the experts on my planned cycle and diet.

Cycle
50mg Test Prop combined with 
50mg Masteron Prop every second day.
20mg Proviron 3 times per day.

Planning on 8 weeks. 
Goal is recovery and to stay anabolic as I train a lot . The added benefit of lean muscle won't hurt. 

Question 
Will this amount of Proviron be enough to keep estrogen in check for this testosterone dosage or should I add nolvadex at 20mg per day? 

Stats

Age 35
Height 183cm
Weight 95kg 
Bodyfat 12-15% probably (Can see my top 4 abs)

Training schedule
5km Run 3 times pw - Tu,Thu,Sat
Weight training 3 times pw - Tu,Thu,Sun

Jiu Jitsu 3 times pw - Mon,Wed,Fri
Muay Thai 3 times pw - Mon,Tue, Thu 

Diet
(I don't use whey supplements but might get some BCAA) 
My Fat intake is a bit high but I found if I go low then my shoulder and joints gives me trouble 

05:00
Five km run on running days and other days just 5km walking (LISS)

07:00 
Eggs 4 whole
Oats 50g (Raw weight)
Almond Butter 5g
Apple 1 or 1 Banana 
Omega3 biogen (3tabs)10:00
Eggs 4 whole
Muesli / granola 50g
Almond Butter 5g
Berries 80g
Low fat Yoghurt 100g

12:00 Jiu Jitsu or Weight Training

13:00
Chicken 150g
Rice basmati 100g (cooked weight)
Broccoli 80g 
Omega3 biogen (3tabs) **16:00
Hake or chicken 150g
Baby Potato 100g
Broccoli 80g  or 
**only eating fruit when doing Muay Thai that day because if I have a full meal then I cant get through workout (Melon, Berries, Apple, Mango with Salt and chilli flakes) 17:30 Muay Thai with 2 bananas afterwards  19:30
Steak 250 - 300g 
Roast veg 200g or 
Salad with olives, tomato, Avo, cucumber, lettuce, Feta cheese. Balsamic vinegar

*If it was a hard day and I am still hungry at 22:00 I will have 
40g almonds 
100g biltong or

4 Rice cakes with almond butter
And 100g biltong Thank you in advance for any input.



 

well this is what is considered sports HRT.

3mg per kg is split between testosterone and other drugs from the 19nor or DHT family.

using proviron when using masteron, especially at that dosing, is overkill and a waste of money. what is your purpose for using the proviron in that course?

also just use long esters vs props. 150mg test e a week and 150mg masteron e a week. one injection of 2ml and you are done.

would i say that there could be additions to this course to help aid the recovery and the endurance aspects? yes. injectable L-carnitine and Insulin and a lot amount of growth hormone and metformin would be a brilliant addition to this. especially with the number of calories you are burning vs consuming. If you are struggling with hunger then there also needs to be other drugs added. 

if you are struggling with recovery and endurance, i would almost go to say that calories are a bit low for your current expenditure. 

Empire wrote:

well this is what is considered sports HRT.

3mg per kg is split between testosterone and other drugs from the 19nor or DHT family.

using proviron when using masteron, especially at that dosing, is overkill and a waste of money. what is your purpose for using the proviron in that course?

Thank you for the reply Empire 

Maybe you missed the "question" section in my post. There is the reason for thinking about using proviron, I was just wondering about the dosage and if it would ne wise to run nolvadex with the low dosed cycle. I will also post a qoute from the profiles section and why I am looking at proviron. 

"Where it does play a significant role, is that it binds as much as 60-65% to the Sex- Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG). This may act to displace other steroids more weakly bound to SHBG into a free (active) state. SHBG binds to testosterone very strongly and about 95-99% of your testosterone is connected to it. Only the free fraction of circulating testosterone is actually what is making you , Proviron’s ability to connect so strongly to SHBG will free up other steroids in your stack to allow them to exercise more , preventing them from converting your other steroid compounds to estrogen. This gives Proviron the added benefit of acting as a moderately effective anti-estrogen."

also just use long esters vs props. 150mg test e a week and 150mg masteron e a week. one injection of 2ml and you are done.

Reason I wont be able to run longer esters is I am going to Thailand end of Feb. So wont be able to take any anabolics with. I have however sourced the PCT in Malaysia so will be doing it there.  

would i say that there could be additions to this course to help aid the recovery and the endurance aspects? yes. injectable L-carnitine and Insulin and a lot amount of growth hormone and metformin would be a brilliant addition to this. especially with the number of calories you are burning vs consuming. If you are struggling with hunger then there also needs to be other drugs added. 

I will look into L-carnitine thank you. 

if you are struggling with recovery and endurance, i would almost go to say that calories are a bit low for your current expenditure. 

Maybe increase my carb intake per meal by 20 - 50g? 
 

1. At 150mg of test a week, estrogen shouldn't need controlling. Also masteron in the clinical setting is used to stop estrogen related breast cancer, so it will be more than enough to control estrogen.

Masteron also does all the same things for shbg that proviron does and more being an anabolic. Steroids are pretty simple to source in Thailand to be honest.

Also your diet does seem all over the show..

1. Set your protein intake.

Because you are using steroids you become more protein efficient so 2-2.5g per kg of body weight is max needed really. So 95x2 is 190 and if you go higher protein 95x.2.5 is 237.5 so round it up to 240. Now choose 1 and stick to it daily..

2. Fat intake set are 1g per kg. So 95g of fat daily will be more than enough and if you need to drop calories this is where is should come from first.

3. Carb intake should full the rest of your calories for the day. Now we haven't discussed total calories cos you need to work out what your goals are. I would say that because you aren't recovering your current intake is too low. So work out what you are eating currently, add probably 500-700 calories to that as a start point, and then workout your carb requirements.

So for example if your current diet is 2200 calories, i would suggest going to 2900 calories to start. Then minus your fat calories (95g x 9 = 855) gives you 2045 kcal. Then minus your protein intake which I would suggest for you 190 (190x4 = 760kcal) which gives your 2045-760 = 1285 kcal. Divide that by 4 gives you 320g of carbs a day.

That will be a better starting point. Remember the exercise you are doing is very high intensity so the body will want to use glucose for fuel first. Lower intensity work uses fat for fuel more than carbohydrates.

So just glancing over what you are eating, you are under eating quite a bit.

Thanks Empire.

I have a question that might seem like a dumb question.

When referring to "Protein 2.5g per kg of body weight" is this for example 240g chicken per meal or the other calculation of protein where 100g of chicken only has 27g of protein. Hope this question makes sense haha

OK so I have gotten my protein up to 250g per day by increasing portion sizes in afternoon, Fat seems good at plus minus 100g , Carbs  need to be almost doubled or have to eat pasta (which I really don't like) to get to 360g ... Damn

Steph wrote:

Thanks Empire.

I have a question that might seem like a dumb question.

When referring to "Protein 2.5g per kg of body weight" is this for example 240g chicken per meal or the other calculation of protein where 100g of chicken only has 27g of protein. Hope this question makes sense haha

He is referring to the actual amount of protein you consume. Chicken or other meat aren't 100% protein, so it's the 27g protein per 100g of chicken meat that is important in your calculations.

Oats, rice, potato, mealie meal, pasta, wraps, bread, dried fruit. Many different options to get carbs in other than just pasta. I'm getting in 520g of carbs daily and none of it comes from pasta.

Depending when the carbs are consumed you can even go for some "Bad" carbs, Gummy worms, marshmallows etc, or rice based cereals

I get those after workouts. I think you could be the same? @empire, correct?