When, what, where and precaution

Hi Guys,
I'm 45, 1,86m tall and weigh 83kg. I used to be in great shape when I was 38, but have let myself go. I've started hitting the gym again but it feels like being older now has made it harder to gain muscle and I'm already a slow gainer. So I've been playing around with the idea of starting a cycle of Testosterone Cypionate (200 per week) and HGH (not sure about what dose). 
I'm concerned about long term hormonal issues down the line and also hair loss (it's already getting thin). I'm also aware that I need to follow a strict diet.
I've been reading up as much as possible but any advice will be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance.

Trt is 1mg per kg of body weight. That puts you at roughly 85mg per week.

Sports trt(basics of a course) 3mg per kg puts your at 240mg a week.

Sports HRT is 3mg per kg of a combination of 2 or 3 compounds. I would go 1.5mg test per kg, and 1.5mg of something like primo or even Nandrolone.

Nandrolone has been known to be incredibly hair protective.

Some guys run just Nandrolone for hrt if they dont have gyno issue or ED issues.

Sadly MPB IS GOING TO BE A THING AT YOUR AGE.

You can run that 3mg per kg for quite some time without health complications if you are getting regular blood work done.

You can then add in other non androgenic compounds in to the mix.

Injectable carnatine pre workout at 150mg will be a good start.

2iu of growth hormone 5 days a week another good start.

If your nutrtion is spot on, a small dosing of insulin.

You can also add in a dose of clenbuterol at 0.5mcg per kg of body weight for a period of 8-12 weeks to aid muscle growth and potential body recomp. That low dose of clen is more for assisting muscle growth more so than fat loss, as you would need a higher dose for fat loss.

Potentially if blood pressue is an issue and redblood cell formation for this a dose of 2.5mg enap will go a long way for keeping everything in order.

Hi,I just wanted to give you some feedback. I've been on 220mg Testosterone Cypionate for 4 weeks now, and been taking 150mg L-Carnitine injections before training.  The effects in the gym were incredible. Almost every time, I'm able to lift heavier. I feel better and have more energy than I did when I was in my early thirties. My sex drive has returned in some measure, which was previously non-existent. I've also observed a rise in aggression. My nipples are a little sensitive, and my testicles are a little sore (any advice??) I haven't observed any significant water retention.  I believe my diet is ideal. Minimal fat, no sugar or empty carbs, plenty of protein (mostly chicken breast, eggs, and high quality whey isolate), and plenty of vegetables and fruit. I also take creatine before and after training. The l-Carnitine gave me a really weird sense of smell. I believe it was also interfering with my sleep, therefore I've discontinued use for the time being.  I underwent a comprehensive blood test, including blood pressure, last week. Everything was fine except for the fact that the test level was slightly higher than the maximum normal expected level. I informed the doctor that I using testosterone. I was expecting disappointment and lots of warnings, but he was mostly curious. But he did warn me not to underestimate it though. RegardsP

Forgot to mention, my test levels from the blood test was around 900 ng/dL after 3 weeks.

Just out of curiosity, what brand of test are you using?

Depending on the brand of l carnatine, it may contain b12, which at high doses would have an effect on sleep.

Well 220mg of test x4 gives you 880ng/dl roughly, so you should be on the money at the high end with a level of 900, you may have a little more of a rise as peak concentration usually happens at about 3-4x the length of the half life. So if you are using Enanthate, you looking at about the 30-40 day mark being at max dosing really.

Sensitivity in the nipples could be cos your test dosing is too high, so if it persists, come down to 2mg per kg of test and add 1mg per kg of a dht like mast or primo, and go from trt to hrt.

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Hi,
Please could I have your input. I have stopped T after 5 weeks and weened off (150mg per week for 2 weeks). I still want to be able to have kids and I don't want my testicles to shut down. I've been off for 30 days. I'm about to start No.2 PCT (on this site: Clomid, Novaldex, HCG). Then after PCT wait 5 weeks and do a blood test to check my Test Levels. Then start another cycle for 12 weeks. Do you have any advice as I'm getting very different opinions. My aim with test is to feel better and build muscle, but not abuse it.
Would really appreciate your advice. 
Thank you in advance.

Pieter_Vos wrote:

I've been off for 30 days. I'm about to start No.2 PCT (on this site: Clomid, Novaldex, HCG). Then after PCT wait 5 weeks and do a blood test to check my Test Levels. Then start another cycle for 12 weeks. 

There is no "one size fits all" approach to this. You've only been on a low dose of T for 5 weeks so you will be fine following this protocol. It's a bit overkill for your situation, but is a more responsible way.

If you go on a heavier, long cycle using more suppressive compounds like deca then you should wait longer.