2nd cycle potential

AAS cycle potential 

Current stats:
Male
Age: 24
Weight: 80kgs
Height: 175cm
BF%: around 15%

Background:
Always been sporty and active. Been in the gym since last year of high school. Training pretty consistently while being dually committed to studies. ie. 6 years of gym with 2023 being my 7th year. Wouldn't consider myself a newbie to the gym and lifting at all.

Prior AAS use:
1st and only cycle ever run was 600mg Test E / week. This was in 2019 and was idiotic I know. I was less clued-up back then etc.
Anyway… felt awful afterwards - depressed, no libido, acne and oily skin. Also held onto massive amounts of water.. looked like a bloated potato… not cool.

Proposed new cycle:
Would like to gain some size and lean mass on a bulk of sorts. However, I want to minimise water retention and bloating as much as possible this time along with side effects.
Want to hold on to as much as I can post-cycle.

Compounds:
UPA Test Cyp 250mg/week
UPA Masteron Enanthate 200mg/week
UPA Anavar 15mg

UPA HCG 5000 IU
UPA Clomid 50mg
EU Pharma Nolvadex 20mg


QUESTIONS:
Q: Plan to run these two compounds for 10 weeks. Is this suitable or is it worth pushing it to say 12 weeks?

Q: Should I increase the masteron dose over time eg. After 4 weeks increase to 300mg or not etc?

Q: Is it worth running anavar for 25 days @ 30mg per day dosage as I have it?

Q: I considered running nandrolone alongside these as well… but perhaps its best to leave this out for early cycles? (how much of a concern is it that 19-Nors shut you down for a long time/very suppressive?)


Cycle:
Week 1 - 10: Test Cyp @ 250mg EW (split into bi-weekly pins)

Week 1 - 10: Mast Enan @ 200mg EW (split into bi-weekly pins)

Week 1 - 10: 250IU HCG twice EW during cycle

Week 10+ (after last Test pin and during waiting period until PCT): Anavar @ 15mg x2 ED for 25 days stopping 3 days before starting PCT.

PCT:
36 days after last pin: Day 1-7 = 2 X 50mg Clomid ED (7 days)
43 days after last pin: Day 8-35 = 20mg Nolvadex ED (28 days)

This pretty well thought out. It's great to see young guys who do the research and don't overdo it unnecessarily.

Yes 12 weeks is fine, but you will see less growth and results towards the end of the cycle. See how you feel though after 9-10 weeks.

I would bump up Masteron to 300mg. It's very mild and the bump won't cause any noticeable increase in side effects.

Var at 30mg is fine as a bridge to PCT. but 25 days is a bit short to experience the full benefits of anavar. I'd run it 5-6 weeks, starting a week or 2 earlier. 

PCT is fine. 7 days of 100mg of Clomid is torture and also less effective than 14 days at 50mg. 50mg for 7 days is even enough with that cycle. 19-nors definitely do shut you down harder and take longer to recover from.

Thanks a lot muscleaddict, that's very helpful.  Just trying to be as safe as possible and prolong my longevity with this stuff. 

What would you say is a better compound to run for me in this anavar @ 30mg per day for 50 days OR tbol @ 30mg per day for 50 days ?  

This would be in the last 7ish weeks leading up to PCT (ie. including the bridge to PCT time period).

Anavar for sure.

UPDATE:

#1.   I'm thinking of front-loading the first 25 days of the cycle with turinabol 30mg ED to rapidly experience strength gain whilst the Test Cyp and Mast E work their way into full swing?

#2.   Want to bump the anavar (as laid out in the first post) to 50mg for 7 weeks leading up to and including bridge to PCT?

Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated!

Ps. Thanks muscleaddict, I will also bump the Mast E to 300mg EW.

Doses look fine for your size, although Anavar at 40mg is more than enough at 80Kg if its a good brand like LP. Duration of orals also ok.

Thanks. I don’t know where to get hold of LP… can only seem to get UPA & EU Pharma plus a few others.

So just to check, var is fine and would you say also a yes or no to the tbol as well?

Yes tbol is great for a 2nd cycle. Very mild on side effects but very effective.