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Planning 5th Cycle Test +(Deca or oral compound)
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19 Mar 2024 16:59 #229712
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Planning 5th Cycle Test +(Deca or oral compound) was created by QCM
Hi
I am planning a 5th cycle. Any advice will be much appreciated
Stats:
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Age: 27
Height: 183cm
Weight: 82kgs
BF%: about 13%
Weightlifting around 7-8 years
Planned Cycle
Week 1-14 - Sustanon 350 - 0.5ml 2x per week
Not sure if i want to possibly add Deca or keep to oral compound only like anadrol (any advise will be appreciated)
Should i cut at the end of the cycle and what should i use while cutting if so
Goal = Muscle Gain, maximum results with minimal side effects.
Cycle History
1st cycle dianabol only 6weeks
2nd Cycle Anavar only 8 weeks 15mg/day
3rd cycle Sust 350 - 1ml/week
Anavar 15mg per day 6 weeks
Nolvadex 30mg per day pct
4th Cycle Sust 350 - 2ml/week 10 weeks
Equipoise 320 - 2ml per week 10 weeks
Anavar 15mg per day 8 weeks
Nolvadex 30mg per day pct
Last cycle completed on 25 Dec 2024
I am planning a 5th cycle. Any advice will be much appreciated
Stats:
Male
Age: 27
Height: 183cm
Weight: 82kgs
BF%: about 13%
Weightlifting around 7-8 years
Planned Cycle
Week 1-14 - Sustanon 350 - 0.5ml 2x per week
Not sure if i want to possibly add Deca or keep to oral compound only like anadrol (any advise will be appreciated)
Should i cut at the end of the cycle and what should i use while cutting if so
Goal = Muscle Gain, maximum results with minimal side effects.
Cycle History
1st cycle dianabol only 6weeks
2nd Cycle Anavar only 8 weeks 15mg/day
3rd cycle Sust 350 - 1ml/week
Anavar 15mg per day 6 weeks
Nolvadex 30mg per day pct
4th Cycle Sust 350 - 2ml/week 10 weeks
Equipoise 320 - 2ml per week 10 weeks
Anavar 15mg per day 8 weeks
Nolvadex 30mg per day pct
Last cycle completed on 25 Dec 2024
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20 Mar 2024 10:43 #229713
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Replied by Empire on topic Planning 5th Cycle Test +(Deca or oral compound)
Adding any oral where maxiumum muscle growth is the goal is going to be incredibly difficult..
For maximum muscle growth you need milligrams and calories. Taking orals are known to kill appetite, especially something like anadrol. I have to force feed myself on anadrol, and thats pre contest when im already starving.
So taking orals will give you milligrams but you wont get in calories.
Your best bet is to take your body weight multiply by 10. Thats total weekly dosages so 82 x 10 is 820mg per week.
Limit testosterone to 3mg per kg so that is 240mg per week, so doing a sust 250 will be fine 350 may be too much.
And if you want to yet maximum growth with minimal side effects, go for primo over anything else. You have never run a 19nor so you have no idea if gyno is going to be an issue. You can use masteron over primo.
So you know that 250mg of test per week is your dosing your test will be 250mg per week from 1-15.
Then you have 7mg per kg to play with.
So week 1-3 add 200mg primo/masteron per week.
Week 4-6 300mg primo/masteron per werk.
Week 7-8 400mg primo/masteron
Week 9-16 600mg primo/masteron per week.
That is going to be your best bet. If you are Suffering from low estrogen sides on those dht substances only then drop masteron/primo to 500mg per week and increase test to 350mg per week.
Calories at probably 3100-3300 protein at 220g per day, fat at 80g per day balance from carbs.
For maximum muscle growth you need milligrams and calories. Taking orals are known to kill appetite, especially something like anadrol. I have to force feed myself on anadrol, and thats pre contest when im already starving.
So taking orals will give you milligrams but you wont get in calories.
Your best bet is to take your body weight multiply by 10. Thats total weekly dosages so 82 x 10 is 820mg per week.
Limit testosterone to 3mg per kg so that is 240mg per week, so doing a sust 250 will be fine 350 may be too much.
And if you want to yet maximum growth with minimal side effects, go for primo over anything else. You have never run a 19nor so you have no idea if gyno is going to be an issue. You can use masteron over primo.
So you know that 250mg of test per week is your dosing your test will be 250mg per week from 1-15.
Then you have 7mg per kg to play with.
So week 1-3 add 200mg primo/masteron per week.
Week 4-6 300mg primo/masteron per werk.
Week 7-8 400mg primo/masteron
Week 9-16 600mg primo/masteron per week.
That is going to be your best bet. If you are Suffering from low estrogen sides on those dht substances only then drop masteron/primo to 500mg per week and increase test to 350mg per week.
Calories at probably 3100-3300 protein at 220g per day, fat at 80g per day balance from carbs.
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20 Mar 2024 11:50 #229714
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Replied by QCM on topic Planning 5th Cycle Test +(Deca or oral compound)
Thanks for the help
Would the primo in that cycle be oral primo or injectable?
Or is it the same either way?
Would the primo in that cycle be oral primo or injectable?
Or is it the same either way?
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20 Mar 2024 14:12 #229715
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Well i just said orals would kill appetite, so i was would think that you would see it is injectable.
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27 Mar 2024 21:03 #229743
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I is was alsos thinking shit might gets bothered but not too hot hey.
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