Equi cycle advice (is less more!)

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02 Jun 2024 22:20 #229850 by MrHydeDr
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Hello gents,

so I’m 81kgs, about 173 and in my early thirties. I’ve had 2 previous cycles test (second cycle was 500mg test a week) and anavar only but I don’t think my gains were great, I wasn’t aware of the PCT protocol on this site and waiting until the levels drop which I found quite useful( think my previous PCT weren’t great, I waiting 2 weeks before!) . After more research I’d like to approach the less is more approach and approach lower doses. 

thinking 200mg test for 16 weeks and equi at 300 a week for 14 weeks. Arimidex will be based on blood work but initially half a tablet a week. But figured blood work will guide me. HCG from about day 63 @250iu. Anavar at 50mg for 6 weeks during the bridge while taking 20mg proviron. And then PCT3?

some advice on the volume of gear please, I’ve read equi needs to be run higher but figured I’d ask more experienced heads?

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03 Jun 2024 10:37 #229851 by Empire
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Equi falls under the testosterone derivative family, so it will do the same things as testosterone minus the conversion of estrogen, so you will still get some strength and muscle, but will also drive up Redblood cell count, HARDER than testosterone. So you would want to use either or to he honest.

If you are looking for a fuller but better look, i would rather see you using npp over equi, as it can give you strength and fullness to your physique more so than equi will.

And if you want to get really decent id add in masteron e.

If you were looking to run 200 test and 300 equi, you would probably be better off doing 200 test, 200 npp and 100mg masteron for a week. So you would get away with pinning 100 test P, 50mg mast P and 100mg npp 2x a week.

Not the biggest fan of short esters personally, but for your goals, you would benefit. Could run all for 15 weeks and then you would not have to wait so long to start pct. 5x the longest half life would he 4.5days x 5 so 23days after last injection would work for your pct

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03 Jun 2024 12:33 #229852 by MrHydeDr
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Interesting - so if I went the short esters route twice a week would be fine at those values?

Long esters approach possibly: So could do 200 test, 200 deca (assuming it’s like NPP) and 100 mast (I worry my bf % may not be low enough) for 12 weeks? Using caber and arimidex based on blood work. Bridge I assume would be like 50 days or so? And then PCT3?

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03 Jun 2024 13:17 #229853 by Muscleaddict
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I would go with Deca over EQ as well. 200mg of Deca will do more than the same dose of EQ, but recover post cycle does take longer with Deca though. 6-7 weeks bridge would be fine after only 200g Deca before PCT.
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03 Jun 2024 13:48 #229854 by MrHydeDr
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So 200 test and 200 deca 12 weeks with a 7 week bridge (don’t wanna put words in your mouth) PCT3 and managing progesterone and estrogen through blood work. HCG mid cycle to keep everything ticking.

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03 Jun 2024 20:24 - 03 Jun 2024 20:25 #229855 by Empire
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At those doses, arimadex should not be needed.

And i dont know why guys think that you need to be low bf for masteron usage, it is great for growing new tissue, plus the other benefits of estrogen control, aggression in the gym and anti prolactin and to some extent anti progresterone.

Ive used it with most of my clients offseason, some of them in then 15mg per kg and 12mg per kg coming from masteron and they growing like weeds!

If this is a new course to you, i would npp over longer nandrolone deconate, and dose 2x a week. Easier to get out of if you experience issues than waiting the lag time of getting rid of the deconate ester.
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03 Jun 2024 20:28 #229856 by MrHydeDr
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That’s actually some great info. I’ll give this a go! Will use the suggested dosages twice a week!

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11 Jun 2024 08:35 #229870 by MrHydeDr
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Any thoughts on HCG during the short Easter cycle for 12-14 weeks cycle? Would you dose 250iu every other day or twice a week?

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11 Jun 2024 10:23 #229871 by Empire
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i have plenty thoughts.
but ask yourself, why am i adding in this compound? what am i trying to achieve? you arent going to use a sledge hammer to fix a pocket watch, so right tool, for the right job.
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11 Jun 2024 22:55 #229874 by MrHydeDr
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Right, so no need for HCG mid cycle - after clearance - finish it off with PCT3 and bloodwork.

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12 Jun 2024 08:50 #229875 by Empire
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well you still havent answered the question, what did you want to achieve by adding in the HCG?

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14 Jun 2024 07:02 #229876 by MrHydeDr
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I assumed HCG was helpful in keeping for LH hormones up while on cycle? So that PCT was easier? Keeping the testes going in a way and avoiding the body feeling like it’s crashed? I’ve only ever used HCG as part of PCT and 100% I’ve never used it correctly.

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