cycle opinions and injection site reactions

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30 Aug 2024 07:19 #229972 by daddio
hi everyone, this is a long one so apologies.

i've been training on and off since my early 20's and consistently and seriously for the last 10 years. in the last 2 years i did 4 anavar+clen cycles during cuts, and now that i'm 41 i've decided to get into the real thing. 

i approached someone i know who coaches and used to compete on low levels, and he recommended the following:

250mg test cyp once a week
100mg mast prop 3x a week

​​​​​​after looking at empire's recommended 1st cycle, it seems much more involved than mine, so i thought i'd get opinions from people who aren't benefitting from the products i use. 

the second issue is injection reactions. 2 weeks in i've done 8 shots in total, and it seems like each shot is getting worse. 

shot 7 in my glute turned my whole glute red, swollen and itchy. the following day, the sites of shots 6 and 3 also became red and itchy. it got better by the time for shot 8, but 2 days after shot 8 (quad) my whole thigh feels like a big bruise. 

this can't be normal. i know that more regular, lower doses are better for blood levels, but should i switch to a longer ester for the mast or perhaps look ar orals instead? 
 

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30 Aug 2024 08:08 #229974 by Empire
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Welcome to using short esters such as masteron prop. They generally have a more acidic PH and they burn like shit. You could try doing your 250mg test divided with the 3 weekly injections.

Hence why i always go for enanthate esters.

Your weekly dosing is 550mg. What is your current body weight? Sadly, guys used to compete dont always keep up with new trends. In the last 16 years ive been helping people, my methods have changed and refined. Sadly, some people do not do this.

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30 Aug 2024 08:49 - 30 Aug 2024 08:57 #229975 by daddio
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thanks empire, i've seen a lot of your replies and you really seem to know your stuff. i'm currently 100kg  @1,75m, and just started a cut to get to 95kg.

also on the note of the short esters, i'm quickly running out of sites to cycle. i pin in my glutes and quads, but with 4 shots a week total my sites get barely a week to heal. this, combined with the now regular flare-ups make me think i should switch to enanthate, unless you would recommended something else entirely? 
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30 Aug 2024 15:37 #229976 by Empire
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How long are you planning to run this dose for?

Delts, lats, triceps. All can work, but good luck with the prop ester.

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30 Aug 2024 15:38 #229977 by Empire
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Also you can mix the cyp with the mast. 3 injections a week.

You will get away with a single shot when using long esters.
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05 Sep 2024 10:22 #229981 by daddio
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thanks, i had another shot and it was terrible so i decided to take a week to let the sites heal. i used pretty much all the masteron, so i decided to keep on with the test cyp and replace the masteron with anavar to a similar weekly dose while cutting

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05 Sep 2024 12:02 #229982 by Oupa
I cant pin quads, even with long esters i have horrible PIP, struggle to bend my legs for about a week. Glutes and delts i can pin EOD without that terrible PIP.

Switch over to Masteron E blend with your test

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05 Sep 2024 16:29 #229983 by daddio
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so you don't think the test+anavar combo is good for a cut? 

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05 Sep 2024 17:33 #229984 by Empire
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The drugs aren't going to get you cut.

Diet, cardio and training will..the drugs will change the look of that.

Orals offer a fullness injectables dont..they also suppress appetite that injectables dont.

Does test and anavar directly impact "cutting" ? No.

Ive coached so many people that think the drugs do all the work..and they get a big shock to see what needs to go into it.

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05 Sep 2024 18:02 #229985 by daddio
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no i get that, i am cutting my calories as i have done before while still being diligent in training in order to drop fat. i know that a decent deficit is the only way to lose fat. 

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