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22 Jun 2026 17:25 #230813
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Hey guys
Been aa gym rat for a few years. But the last 5 years I fell of the wagon but got back on the last year and a half.
So iI'm planning an eq cycle and thinking of using NNP as Kickstart for the first 6 weeks till the EQ really starts working.
Cycle
Week 1 -15 300mg test E
Week 1 -15 640mg EQ
Week 1 -6 100mg NPP 100mg eod
So wwhat doatinex dosage is recommended with NNP. I have done tren in the past and normally used 2.5mg x2 a week with adex 0.5mg e3-4d and had no issues then. Haven't touched any AAS in the last 7 years.
Been training naturally the last 1.5 yrs and gained over 20kgs roughly of water, fat and muscle. All while being on trt of test cyp 100mg a week and bump it up to 200mg the last 2 weeks before switching over to 350mg test e a week and the rest of the compounds.
Diet is fairly strict. Like 90% strict daily with the space for the occasional treat. Please remember I'm. Not looking to compete or get massive. I just want to get back to a healthy 82-85kg with sub 12% bf. Plus I'm also just hit 40 recently. So I'm more about taking it it slow and steady now.
Bloods aare done regularly cause I'm on trt, was on nebido but switched over to Pfizer test cyp.
Anyhow that's it I think. Any feedback or input. Thanks.
Been aa gym rat for a few years. But the last 5 years I fell of the wagon but got back on the last year and a half.
So iI'm planning an eq cycle and thinking of using NNP as Kickstart for the first 6 weeks till the EQ really starts working.
Cycle
Week 1 -15 300mg test E
Week 1 -15 640mg EQ
Week 1 -6 100mg NPP 100mg eod
So wwhat doatinex dosage is recommended with NNP. I have done tren in the past and normally used 2.5mg x2 a week with adex 0.5mg e3-4d and had no issues then. Haven't touched any AAS in the last 7 years.
Been training naturally the last 1.5 yrs and gained over 20kgs roughly of water, fat and muscle. All while being on trt of test cyp 100mg a week and bump it up to 200mg the last 2 weeks before switching over to 350mg test e a week and the rest of the compounds.
Diet is fairly strict. Like 90% strict daily with the space for the occasional treat. Please remember I'm. Not looking to compete or get massive. I just want to get back to a healthy 82-85kg with sub 12% bf. Plus I'm also just hit 40 recently. So I'm more about taking it it slow and steady now.
Bloods aare done regularly cause I'm on trt, was on nebido but switched over to Pfizer test cyp.
Anyhow that's it I think. Any feedback or input. Thanks.
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23 Jun 2026 14:50 #230814
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You are going to tank estrogen and feel like shit very very quickly with that course.
You are also loading the body with 1200 per week from the get go? Thats going to end very very badly. Go and read other threads about titrating dose up. And I wouldnt be using equi unless you convert to estrogen like a bitch, and even then 2:1 test: equi still ends up most people with tanked estrogen, yet you are wanting to do 2.25:1 equi to test, you are looking for trouble.
You are also loading the body with 1200 per week from the get go? Thats going to end very very badly. Go and read other threads about titrating dose up. And I wouldnt be using equi unless you convert to estrogen like a bitch, and even then 2:1 test: equi still ends up most people with tanked estrogen, yet you are wanting to do 2.25:1 equi to test, you are looking for trouble.
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23 Jun 2026 20:09 #230818
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I'm not estrogen prone but longer acting eater do aromatize heavier for me specifically more then for others. For instance when I'm on trt if test cyp I get a bloated face but not on test E or suat mix. And yes cyp does make that a big difference to me with bloods to show it. Even my doc said test e should be brought back to the market.
All that aside. I have used NNP with Mast P for a cut with great results but also never with eq and as you mentioned the total AAS is a lot. So is the NNP unnecessary in the risk of side VS gains or actually gains and time, money spend?
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iI hear you fully but back in the day I use to run 300mg test E and 700mg eq for 20 weeks using adex 2-3 x a week in off season and never had issues.You are going to tank estrogen and feel like shit very very quickly with that course.
You are also loading the body with 1200 per week from the get go? Thats going to end very very badly. Go and read other threads about titrating dose up. And I wouldnt be using equi unless you convert to estrogen like a bitch, and even then 2:1 test: equi still ends up most people with tanked estrogen, yet you are wanting to do 2.25:1 equi to test, you are looking for trouble.
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I'm not estrogen prone but longer acting eater do aromatize heavier for me specifically more then for others. For instance when I'm on trt if test cyp I get a bloated face but not on test E or suat mix. And yes cyp does make that a big difference to me with bloods to show it. Even my doc said test e should be brought back to the market.
All that aside. I have used NNP with Mast P for a cut with great results but also never with eq and as you mentioned the total AAS is a lot. So is the NNP unnecessary in the risk of side VS gains or actually gains and time, money spend?
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24 Jun 2026 05:36 #230822
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The issue is that equi converts to e1 and that will affect e2 levels..
Equi is the odd one out for me.
During the great mast shortage ive had more clients try equi..even on 160mg a week with higher test of 500mg estrogen is TANKED. with no Ai..
Equi is the odd one out for me.
During the great mast shortage ive had more clients try equi..even on 160mg a week with higher test of 500mg estrogen is TANKED. with no Ai..
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24 Jun 2026 09:55 #230824
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is there is still mast shortage? which one you would recommend to buy for example today?
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24 Jun 2026 19:12 #230826
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The issue is that equi converts to e1 and that will affect e2 levels..
Equi is the odd one out for me.
During the great mast shortage ive had more clients try equi..even on 160mg a week with higher test of 500mg estrogen is TANKED. with no Ai..
Nah iI get what you saying. Masterson at 400mg a week max. Or even 300mg. The thing is the dht side like hairless that I wanna avoid. But let's say we can replace eq with mast, will 300-400mg suffice and still add slow lean gains.
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24 Jun 2026 19:13 #230827
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Also my supplier or the manufacturer I'm using is U. P. A for everything. Is there mast good to go?
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13 Aug 2026 21:20 #230880
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Okay decided on just adding NPP with upped cruise dose with some dostinex.
Should I start the dostinex from the get go or when I start getting progesterone sides? Prevention is always better then cure but could it hinder gains if say a twice weekly dose of 0.125mg is used with 300mg NPP a week.
Should I start the dostinex from the get go or when I start getting progesterone sides? Prevention is always better then cure but could it hinder gains if say a twice weekly dose of 0.125mg is used with 300mg NPP a week.
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Don't use Dostinex unless you have to, and you likely will not have to.Okay decided on just adding NPP with upped cruise dose with some dostinex.
Should I start the dostinex from the get go or when I start getting progesterone sides? Prevention is always better then cure but could it hinder gains if say a twice weekly dose of 0.125mg is used with 300mg NPP a week.
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17 Aug 2026 07:14 #230882
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Well dostinex lowers prolactin not progesterone, so there is also that little bit of pertinent information.
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