Liquid pharma Clen

But the sides where gone and Inja theory clearly states that it should be more active ( the shakes ) so hence, it probabbly wasn't working.... Ok just was wondering, as then won't waste the cash on buying it for my chick... as will rather cycle that spent that extra money every month

Everything is a theory in life. Thats why we have research and experimental procedures. And hopefully we get enough evidence to prove a theory. Yes Inja says the shakes should be more active but as you just said its a theory, although it is logical but it is this logic that brings you to the theory. Shakes are not the only proof that clen is or isn't working, people experience different side effects to various substances and at various degrees. So like I said before, you know your body best and you will know if something is working for you or not, as there isn't always a means of providing proof. Also if you dont experiment, which I recall you said in a previous thread, you will never know what works and doesn't work for you. Everyone is different and copes with different substances differently so there is no generalising here. Experiment, experiment, experiment!!!

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But the sides where gone and Inja theory clearly states that it should be more active ( the shakes ) so hence, it probabbly wasn't working.... Ok just was wondering, as then won't waste the cash on buying it for my chick... as will rather cycle that spent that extra money every month

You won't buy the Zetofen, or you wont buy the Clen?

The only prove that Clen is working (as fatburner) is if your body temperature rises about 0.1`C

I agree with Beesting, that Ketotifen is not great at 2mg per day. I'm in the same boat and will also start cycling my Clen.

I'm also going to ask LP to source some Ketotifen raws.

Thanks admin

Or ask them if they know of this compound my friends are talking about that is being released in clen to prevent the shakes? this would be great... if I find out any more info my side will pass it on

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admin wrote:

The only prove that Clen is working (as fatburner) is if your body temperature rises about 0.1`C

You stole my comment Admin!!!
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Now I wasted all my time reading this thread... :laugh:

Agreed about the body temp. In my exprimenting with clen the shakes subside a couple of days after each dosage increase but the noticable rise in body temp will continue for at least two weeks (don't really run it longer).

Also the ketotifen increases the effect of clen by a completely seperate mechanism to that by which the effects are nullified. Thus although two individuals may respond identically to clen they may still respond differently to ketotifen. e.g. I notice a difference with 2mg zetofen and beesting doesn't.

Good thread all round, take home message: Experiment, but experiment knowledgeably.

I only get light shakes from Clen but I get massive headaches and there's no medicine on earth that work for it as I've tried most of them.

Are you sure you taking enough omega's? Flaxseed helps thin the blood, I find even when I should get 'blood pressure' headaches (some serious high readings) i find them allot less mild or none at all..