Animal Stack as PTC

Hi has any one ever tried Animal stack as PTC and who was the results

I took my last inj. about 4 days ago

I was on testoviron and sus every 4day
and bold350 and deca300 half a ml of each but only for about 4 weeke

Please type down in detail what you took for each week and for how long.
Along with your stats.

As for the above for a PCT. Its sound like you dont know what you doing

Are you saying that you took Test En & Sus & Bold350 & Deca300 all together ? For about 4 weeks ??

Was this your first cycle ?

I'd suggest you do a proper PCT.

thats one shocking cycle...

So you took AAS to achieve shut-down?
Why? Short of money?
You cant go short on PCT though. HCG, Clomid, Kessar after the clomid.

Im 23
way 87 kg
my hight is 1,84m
body fat about 12%

this is my 7 cycle in 3 years started on 65kg
but this is the "worst" one i would say

1ml Testoviron + 1ml Sus +0.5ml Deca 300 +0.5ml Bold 350 every 4 day
and close to the end i pick up the Deca and bold

the side was almost no existing

why dont you guy think its a good Cycle ?

jackrabbit1 wrote:

So you took AAS to achieve shut-down?
Why? Short of money?
You cant go short on PCT though. HCG, Clomid, Kessar after the clomid.

Sorry for sounding stupid but what do you mean with Shut-down?:S

Buddie, IMO this looks rather bad.
First I think you a little young to be juicing and since you started juicing at 20 that makes you very young.
Second, I think you doing something wrong (probably diet) seeing that you only weigh 87kg for a 1.84m tall dude after 7 cycles
Third, 1ml Testoviron (250mg) + 1ml Sus (250mg??) = 1g TEST every 8 days. IMO that is a lot of test but not unheard of.
Fourth, you shouldn't take Deca & Eq on the same cycle (I've just read this so I don't have any facts on why)

And now for the most important, you don't have a proper PCT planned out.

Did you take Pregnyl during your cycle ?

How long did you run this cycle for ?

What was your PCT for the previous 6 cycles ?

hennie23 wrote:

jackrabbit1 wrote:

So you took AAS to achieve shut-down?
Why? Short of money?
You cant go short on PCT though. HCG, Clomid, Kessar after the clomid.

Sorry for sounding stupid but what do you mean with Shut-down?:S

No disrespect here bud, but you really shouldn't be doing juice if you have never heard the term before.

The fact you have done 7 cycles and have never heard the term "shut-down" before, is absolutely mind boggling!!

It's a term that refers to the shutdown of the HPT axis. In a nut shell, (excuse the pun) it's the shutdown of your ability to produce your own test.

But anyway, at least you did the right thing by coming here for advice. Answer Extreme's questions and we can help you.

I must say my diet was not that good until now
and i must say in my deffence i was very skinny and have a very light bone structure so small joints so every thing looks bigger ... But im also not the biggest guy in the gym YET but with time comes more size

this is where i cot the idea from see Attach
and it really worked for me but i didnt want to do to much damage thats why i did it in fewer weeks

No I did not take any HCh during the cycle

and on my other Cycles I did the normal 3'o clomid, kessar and preg. but i must say not every time (File Removed)

No disrespect here bud, but you really shouldn't be doing juice if you have never heard the term before.

The fact you have done 7 cycles and have never heard the term "shut-down" before, is absolutely mind boggling!!

It's a term that refers to the shutdown of the HPT axis. In a nut shell, (excuse the pun) it's the shutdown of your ability to produce your own test.

But anyway, at least you did the right thing by coming here for advice. Answer Extreme's questions and we can help you.[/quote]


Non taken and i really look up to you guy that have made it a science and hope to some master that art
i actually do know quit a bit to spite my age and i was just checking we where on the same page and doesn't you body only start doing that after a 28-33 day period ?

To be honest it looks like a very old fashioned cycle. No one does that tapering thing in cycles anymore.

That Bold 200 they refer to, is that the pro hormone?

It says take Pregnyl. Are you saying you never took any during your cycle?

hennie23 wrote:

No disrespect here bud, but you really shouldn't be doing juice if you have never heard the term before.

The fact you have done 7 cycles and have never heard the term "shut-down" before, is absolutely mind boggling!!

It's a term that refers to the shutdown of the HPT axis. In a nut shell, (excuse the pun) it's the shutdown of your ability to produce your own test.

But anyway, at least you did the right thing by coming here for advice. Answer Extreme's questions and we can help you.

Non taken and i really look up to you guy that have made it a science and hope to some master that art
i actually do know quit a bit to spite my age and i was just checking we where on the same page and doesn't you body only start doing that after a 28-33 day period ?[/quote]

Nope. With Decca and Test you will be shut down in less than 2 weeks, or there abouts. You were also running a LOT of Test. No question you would be shut down in under 2 weeks.

On the plus side, you are still very young, and so should recover very quickly. What are you planning to do for PCT? Do you have any plan at all?

And also, that is one fucked up cycle.

Where did you get it from?

That is a crap cycle.

Bold 200 is Equipose.
There is no Test in that cycle but you did add TEST.

How long did you run your cycle for ?

Can you get Pregnyl, clomid, kessar/nolva (but you'll have to research the reason why you shouldn't use kessar on a Deca cycle)

Then what I would really susgest you do after your PCT is go to the doctor and do some blood work. You are young and you probably want to have kids one day so go make sure you still can.

What does 3'o clomid,kessar, pregnyl mean ?

i got it of Sa anabolic review

and im going to take the normal pct + animal stack and that was what the question was has any body ever done it and would any body recommend it ?

it makes nice sense to me because of the DHT blockers and long jack and so on
I also sea there is a big difference between this sites Cycles and the ones i normally use and for me it is al a very big learning curve

Extreme wrote:

That is a crap cycle.

Bold 200 is Equipose.
There is no Test in that cycle but you did add TEST.

How long did you run your cycle for ?

Can you get Pregnyl, clomid, kessar/nolva (but you'll have to research the reason why you shouldn't use kessar on a Deca cycle)

Then what I would really susgest you do after your PCT is go to the doctor and do some blood work. You are young and you probably want to have kids one day so go make sure you still can.

What does 3'o clomid,kessar, pregnyl mean ?

EQ and Deca?? What a waste of money imo?

There are a couple of pro-hormone brands using the name Bold 200, I seem to remember. Glad it wasn't one of them. That would have it made it an even crazier cycle.

I see the cycle does call for some Pregnyl during the cycle. Did he take any?

the usual 3 Pregnyl, clomid and kessar
Didn't think it would be that bad how long after my PCT should i do that?

Hennie you need to go here and read this. Seriously boet

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum?func=view&catid=5&id=8254

remember i stoped at week 4 so next week im starting my PCT so any advise on the animal stack with the PCT?

Your heading and your 1st post say Animal stck as PTC (reading as PCT), not Animal Stack with PCT.
I suggest you do some reading regarding taking Kessar after Deca.

I'd do the PCT then give it about 1 month & then go visit my doc and do some blood work.
6 cycles some with PCT others without and on the 7th cycle you take 1g TEST every 8 days.
Like I said you young make sure your body is 100%.

hennie23 wrote:

i got it of Sa anabolic review

and im going to take the normal pct + animal stack and that was what the question was has any body ever done it and would any body recommend it ?

it makes nice sense to me because of the DHT blockers and long jack and so on
I also sea there is a big difference between this sites Cycles and the ones i normally use and for me it is al a very big learning curve

Ok, now you are making sense. It originally seemed you like you wanted to use the Animal Stack as your PCT, not just as an addition.

And yep, you are right, it's all one big learning curve.

And btw, show that cycle to ANY respectable steroid site out there, and they will ALL tell you it's total crap.

As for the Animal Stack, I am not sure if it lives up to it's hype. I doubt if it can add anything to drugs like HGC and Nolva/Clomid. I would love to hear if anyone has tried it PCT. But off the top of my head, it seems you will probably be wasting your money.

Remember you are trying to get the body back to homeostasis. You need to concentrate on the drugs that are going to do that in the most painless way possible.

i wil do that thank you very much then it looks like i need to go back to the bord again on my working out of cycles what whould you say whould be a very good bulking cycle fo my age whait and BF %

Thank you for that link it make much more sense now just one thing im not sure of is what would the best amount of HGC for the omount of stuff that i used?

hennie23 wrote:

Thank you for that link it make much more sense now just one thing im not sure of is what would the best amount of HGC for the omount of stuff that i used?

The problem doing HCG post cycle only, is that you need to use a lot of it. Taking a lot of it can cause it to aromatase. That's obviously not good when you are trying to produce endogenous testosterone. So estrogen will have to be minimized at the same time. That's why it is recommended you use HGC throughout the cycle at small doses. Anyway, remember that for next time.

For now. This is what Dave Palumbo recommends and it's used a lot.

2000iu's of HGC every 3rd day for 5 injections. i.e. Mon, Thurs, Sun, Weds, Sat.

After that, take Clomid at 100mgs per day for 3 weeks.

That is a 5 week PCT. During the whole 5 weeks take .5mg Letro every other day.

Some other protocols say dosages of HGC at smaller doses for longer, and I tend to agree with them. Smaller doses are better inmo, but I am certainly no Dave Palumbo. So it's up to you.

500iu's HGC 3 x week for 3 weeks.
Then the Clomid for 2 weeks @ 100mg's pd
Letro @ .5mgs EOD from start of PCT

I prefer to use Letro during cycle to combat any sides as they arise, and not during PCT. It can be a total bitch on libido if you take too much.

But the above are accepted protocols and will work.

Maybe you want to get some other ideas from the guys here too.