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Hmmm, here is the my story, I have had a gyno operation all tissue removed... no signs of gyno, started a course, around 600mg EQ and 600mg test, well have been running 300mg test up untill a week ago. Been on this cycle for around 4 weeks now. I started with EQ only for the first week so I have only been using test for around 3 weeks now. From day 1 I started using Nolva 20mg p/d, then from week 2 when I started the test I have been using 2mg of Letro p/d. I stopped the nolva into the second week as I know it lowers plaza levels of Letro. Now after 4 weeks I start to see and feel soft tissue around my nipples on 2mg of letro a day? is the letro working (LP) letro. How on that dose and so low dose of test can I be getting this unless the letro is not working 1%.
I included Nolva for the last 3 days and I allready see a difference in the tissue, its not as soft. I honestly don't want to go under the knife again, why is the letro not working? I had better results on small ammounts of adex with Nolva than this?
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Guys using Letro to dry out for competition must start the Letro 8 weeks before the show so that it has enough time to work properly.
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Like I said, I don't know why and can't explain it, but it sounds more and more like progesterone. Progesterone helps to lubricate joints and that's why guys use small dosages of deca with some cycles and you claim to have less pain than normal, so your progesterone is up then...
You might have another problem that's causing progesterone related sides. When some organs are over stressed you can have hormonal problems.
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He also asked if you used Deca or Tren in the last 6 months. If yes, then that is the problem. Also Anapolon is known to stimulate estrogen and progesterone, so did you maybe use that?
He suggested that you take 2.5mg Parlodel and if the issue is not resolved I will give you his number so that you can contact him directly.
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Please post up blood results, this will be quite fascinating.
As an aside, did you have the gland permanently removed when you went for your op or did they just remove the surrounding breast tissue???
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I have taken tren in the last 6 months, but small ammounts as I started getting bad sides i'd say I have used around 600mg of tren.
Let me do some research on Parlodel and go this route...
@Inja I have just had all the surrounding tissue removed. I never actually asked for that, but reading some other posts I have see reports back from people saying their surgeon state, the entire pec is has a gland so you can't just have it removed?
Thanks for all responses, I have had full blood tests done for test, not sure what else I need done?
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Think back to early years, internet non exsistant and you had to dial into a bbs... man things have become easy for sources of information.
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Your bottom line is correct yes, progesterone and prolactinLet me do some research on Parlodel and go this route...
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Yeah, I was asking cause of what I've read on the net about sunken nipples and never getting gyno again. Not sure how accurate the point is.I have just had all the surrounding tissue removed. I never actually asked for that, but reading some other posts I have see reports back from people saying their surgeon state, the entire pec is has a gland so you can't just have it removed?
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Is the blood work recent and what were your estrogen and other sex hormone levels?I have had full blood tests done for test, not sure what else I need done?
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Dam, this gyno is back hectic
so much soft tissue around, everytime I flex I look like shit... it looks just as bad as when I first when in for the op... oh how I hope this stuff can actually do something save up 20k for an op is just sh2t!
Sorry bro
More reason to take that much needed break I think.
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Brain freeze
Listen i've been taking Finpecia
Side affects: The following side-effects have been reported and frequencies are unknown: Breast tenderness, breast enlargment and testicular pain.
Please can somebody enlighten me how it creates breast growth, progesterone or what?
It can't just be estrogen or is it some other weird and unwonderful way the tissue is created? I have stopped today as I believe this could be the problem + the possible side of tren? Just need some hints to go forward, for starters i've stopped the tabs i'm getting Parlodel asap and anything else? Any idea how to treat breast enlargment by finpecia?
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so I pulled up some lit. Seems in clinical studies the incidence of gyno in males taking 1mg ED propecia is no higher than males taking placebo, and in 50 000 men it was 0.01% (5 men).
In cases where gyno was linked to propecia all sex hormone levels were within normal levels except for estrogen which was slightly elevated. I agree with their conclusions that this increase in estrogen levels is due to skewed metabolism of testosterone. That is to say that because testosterone cannot be metabolised to DHT when taking finpecia, more of it is converted to estrogen.
This being said there should be no reason for the finpecia to be causing gyno if your letro has been doing its job. Thus we are back at square one where I asked you to post up estrogen results of that blood work you said you got recently so we can figure out if the bottle of letro you got is bunk or not
And the bloodwork results are...
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Thanks for the research. On my second bottle of letro and 1 quater way through still nothing better.. I need to get Parlodel but issue is that i'm on the road for the next 2 weeks so can't even get my hands on it to easly. I wonder if 2 weeks will cause perm damage *BLINK*
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