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16 Aug 2009 17:33 #20058
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Bulking Cycle
Wk 1 - 4 Dianabol 40mg ed
Wk 1 - 10 Test Enanth 600mg ew
Wk 1 - 10 Deca 350mg ew
PCT
HCG 500iu twice a week starting from week 6 untill two weeks after last shot, then clomid 100mg ed for 5 days and 50mg ed for 19 days.
Letrozole 0.3mg ed from day 1 right through the cycle and PCT.
Multi vitamin and Milk Thistle ed.
Questions
- Should i poke the Test and Deca once per week at 600mg and 350mg in the same spot, or split the dosage up 300mg and 175mg twice a week, Mondays and Thursdays ?
- Is it ok to use the Letro at 0.3mg ed from day 1 right through the cycle ?
- Please give me some general advice and comments on this cycle ?
- What protein bucket should I use with this cycle to gain maximum muscle ?
Currently 78kg, 175cm and 15% BF.
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Wk 1 - 4 Dianabol 40mg ed
Wk 1 - 10 Test Enanth 600mg ew
Wk 1 - 10 Deca 350mg ew
PCT
HCG 500iu twice a week starting from week 6 untill two weeks after last shot, then clomid 100mg ed for 5 days and 50mg ed for 19 days.
Letrozole 0.3mg ed from day 1 right through the cycle and PCT.
Multi vitamin and Milk Thistle ed.
Questions
- Should i poke the Test and Deca once per week at 600mg and 350mg in the same spot, or split the dosage up 300mg and 175mg twice a week, Mondays and Thursdays ?
- Is it ok to use the Letro at 0.3mg ed from day 1 right through the cycle ?
- Please give me some general advice and comments on this cycle ?
- What protein bucket should I use with this cycle to gain maximum muscle ?
Currently 78kg, 175cm and 15% BF.
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16 Aug 2009 17:54 #20061
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I prefer to run the Testen 2 weeks longer than the Deca to leave more potent androgens in the system while progestin levels drop.
Wk 1-12 Testen
Wk 1-10 Deca
Comments on PCT
I would run the HCG lower (250 or 300 i.u.) if you are starting it nice and early. You could also run it slightly later when you only notice atrophy (of course it's better to actually prevent the teticular atrophy). The reasons for this is that extended periods of HCG and high doses can leads to testicle desensitisation with regards to LH stimulous. But week 6 is fine.
I would also like to start running the SERM a little earlier if possible, as close to after your last shot as you can get.
Answers to questions
Divide the dose into two injects per week as opposed to one a week. Better blood levels will result.
Running the letro through out the cycle can be taxing on estrogen levels and thus overall health. Either keep it on hand for possibe gyno outbreak or other complications, or start running it later in the cycle such as around week 6 or 8 till 10 or 12. This will probably kill estrogen in the second half of your cycle which although has its negatives can also aid in PCT by providing a reason for testosterone production.
I prefer to run the Testen 2 weeks longer than the Deca to leave more potent androgens in the system while progestin levels drop.
Wk 1-12 Testen
Wk 1-10 Deca
Comments on PCT
I would run the HCG lower (250 or 300 i.u.) if you are starting it nice and early. You could also run it slightly later when you only notice atrophy (of course it's better to actually prevent the teticular atrophy). The reasons for this is that extended periods of HCG and high doses can leads to testicle desensitisation with regards to LH stimulous. But week 6 is fine.
I would also like to start running the SERM a little earlier if possible, as close to after your last shot as you can get.
Answers to questions
Divide the dose into two injects per week as opposed to one a week. Better blood levels will result.
Running the letro through out the cycle can be taxing on estrogen levels and thus overall health. Either keep it on hand for possibe gyno outbreak or other complications, or start running it later in the cycle such as around week 6 or 8 till 10 or 12. This will probably kill estrogen in the second half of your cycle which although has its negatives can also aid in PCT by providing a reason for testosterone production.
Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view
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16 Aug 2009 18:01 #20062
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Oh yeah, forgot about the protein. Eat any protein supplement and high protein sources as long as they are as lean as you can get. And eat as much as you can! Eat eat eat.
I will give you karma for a very well planned question. Easy to read and with good research behind it!
However I am concerned with your last question as although you appear to have done your research on anabolics and have a good cycle planned you don't seem to know enough about the diet? Make sure you are getting enough calories and protein to maximise gains on cycle! Sort out your diet before sorting out your cycle as this is the most important part of growth.
I will give you karma for a very well planned question. Easy to read and with good research behind it!
However I am concerned with your last question as although you appear to have done your research on anabolics and have a good cycle planned you don't seem to know enough about the diet? Make sure you are getting enough calories and protein to maximise gains on cycle! Sort out your diet before sorting out your cycle as this is the most important part of growth.
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16 Aug 2009 18:41 #20064
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Awesome stuff, thanks for the advice.
Will start taking the Letro from week 8 till the end of PCT (but keeping it on hand if Gyno pops up).
Currently on a high protein diet and eating Mass Builder Bucket.
Will start taking the Letro from week 8 till the end of PCT (but keeping it on hand if Gyno pops up).
Currently on a high protein diet and eating Mass Builder Bucket.
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16 Aug 2009 23:17 #20075
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Sorry if you misunderstood but take the letro until PCT begins, not through duration of PCT.
Are you having at least 3000 cal a day (as lean as possible)?
You can use the mass gainers for Post WorkOut but don't use them at other times in the day because they're filled with short sugars which will add some fat. Rather stick to lower G.I. carb sources at other times in the day.
Are you having at least 3000 cal a day (as lean as possible)?
You can use the mass gainers for Post WorkOut but don't use them at other times in the day because they're filled with short sugars which will add some fat. Rather stick to lower G.I. carb sources at other times in the day.
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17 Aug 2009 07:24 #20083
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"Whether You Think You Can or Can't, You're Right"--Henry Ford
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Nice information supplied Inja, have some karma
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22 Aug 2009 00:24 #20695
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how many kgs is expected on a cycle like this?
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22 Aug 2009 00:58 #20698
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Dbol/Test/Deca is by far one of the best mass stacks ever!
After PCT he should lean out in the mid 80's if he's got all the bells and whistles in place.
After PCT he should lean out in the mid 80's if he's got all the bells and whistles in place.
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22 Aug 2009 06:33 #20699
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At last a beginner that done proper research, well done and good luck with the cycle. Nice answers by Inja as well!
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23 Aug 2009 08:18 #20713
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@ Zafire
Good stuff bud. Im looking at doing pretty much the same cycle, and what a difference actually READING the forum has made for me. Must say the part i find the most confusing is the HCG - When and what amounts should be taken. I say this just because there is so many different views on this. But as long as a person sticks to guidelines and obviously for guys like yourself and me we'll have to see how our bodies react and act accordingly. I think too often people want someone too tell them "Oh, for you you'll have too take X amount of that". And we're all different aren't we?? Hope all goes well
Good stuff bud. Im looking at doing pretty much the same cycle, and what a difference actually READING the forum has made for me. Must say the part i find the most confusing is the HCG - When and what amounts should be taken. I say this just because there is so many different views on this. But as long as a person sticks to guidelines and obviously for guys like yourself and me we'll have to see how our bodies react and act accordingly. I think too often people want someone too tell them "Oh, for you you'll have too take X amount of that". And we're all different aren't we?? Hope all goes well
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24 Aug 2009 00:23 #20746
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Spot on MisterEm
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