lean gains on a budget

HULKman
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17 Aug 2009 22:05 #20186 by HULKman

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I am looking to do a lean bulk cycle in about 2 months, and my budget is really tight with pct ...What would you guys suggest in terms of lasting lean gains...should I run testen 300 for 10 weeks,and 20mg ed(low dose because only 1 box is affordable :dry: ) from week 5 -12 to harden up and then pct

or

Testen 300 at 600mg a week for 10 weeks?

any help will be appreciated

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Inja
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17 Aug 2009 23:48 #20196 by Inja

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Doing the cycle right is priority.
Delay the cycle if you must to save up and get the money you need to do it the way you want.

That being said, you didn't list what oral you intend to take but given the posible choices I'd still go with the test only cycle. Depending on previous cycles and current lean mass 300-600mg is fine.
Hope you've got a decent PCT in mind with the cash you have. Also good advice to have an A.I. and DHT inhibitor lying around. Its better than running into gyno and having to wait for an order of letro trust me. Get all your gear and ancillaries before you cycle.

Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view

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Empire
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18 Aug 2009 07:36 #20201 by Empire

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i would suggest u look at saving some more money and changing the substances,testen will give u water retention and gains will not be so maintainable,i would look at doing 6 weeks of test prop at 100mg every other day with 40mg-50mg of winstrol daily. u will need 2 bottles of winstrol and 2 bottles of test prop.

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00pump
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18 Aug 2009 08:29 #20202 by 00pump

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lean bulk.. lol... bulk is bulk lean is lean...

if you bulking you are going to put on extra kgs.... if you lean up you going to turn that extra kgs into muscle...

It all has to do with how much 'clean' food you eat depending how much of the bulk is fat and/or just extra water/etc.

if you on a budget do you have enough cash to spare for the correct ammount of food..

i'm with the crazy squirrel man.... hold it off get the right gear and enjoy it....

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Empire
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18 Aug 2009 10:45 #20225 by Empire

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00pump wrote:

i'm with the crazy squirrel man.... hold it off get the right gear and enjoy it....

thanks 00gramps

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18 Aug 2009 10:58 #20227 by 00pump

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djeasye wrote:

00pump wrote:

i'm with the crazy squirrel man.... hold it off get the right gear and enjoy it....

thanks 00gramps

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HULKman
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18 Aug 2009 19:01 #20304 by HULKman

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Thanks guys...okay im going to save up for a proper bulk cycle but with maintainable gains...I want to gain a good few extra KG's but it must be maintainable post cycle....any suggestions?

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Empire
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19 Aug 2009 07:57 #20320 by Empire

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well i have heard quite a few guys running equi on its own with pregnyl every week or so just to keep shut down to a mimimum... but u will have to run it for a long time inorder to get that desired effects... i wish there was a Equi proprionate or acetate or what ever it is cos that would be a wonderful substance to use...

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00pump
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19 Aug 2009 08:02 #20321 by 00pump

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jeah!!! specially to get it kicked started

I do those EQ only cycles allot... keep 99.9999999% of gains and keep my strength up for a long time unless I get sick....

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Empire
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19 Aug 2009 08:39 #20325 by Empire

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well i hope u are talking about flu sick, we all know u are pretty sick in the pip 99.999999999999999% of the time

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00pump
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19 Aug 2009 08:46 #20327 by 00pump

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bwhahahhahahhaha

would take offence but guess its true.... lol

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Empire
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19 Aug 2009 08:47 #20328 by Empire

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hahahahahahaha...u would take offense if it was anyone else...

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00pump
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19 Aug 2009 08:50 #20330 by 00pump

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hahah, prob

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Inja
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19 Aug 2009 22:20 #20440 by Inja

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You can do a lean bulk on long ester test as long as your diet is clean and you run an A.I. on cycle. Maintain good diet post cycle and run a good PCT and gains will be maintainable.

Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view

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HULKman
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20 Aug 2009 16:08 #20559 by HULKman

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will letro sreve the purpose for on-cycle water retention prevention at 0.25mg to 0.5mg (5 to 10 drops) a day

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HULKman
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20 Aug 2009 16:08 #20560 by HULKman

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will letro serve the purpose for on-cycle water retention prevention at 0.25mg to 0.5mg (5 to 10 drops) a day

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krielos
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20 Aug 2009 16:17 #20562 by krielos

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Hi Just for interest sake. What is your weekly dosage of EQ and do you also incorporate HCG?

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krielos
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20 Aug 2009 16:18 #20563 by krielos

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00pump wrote:

jeah!!! specially to get it kicked started

I do those EQ only cycles allot... keep 99.9999999% of gains and keep my strength up for a long time unless I get sick....

Hi Just for interest sake. What is your weekly dosage of EQ and do you also incorporate HCG?

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Inja
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20 Aug 2009 22:38 #20600 by Inja

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HULKman wrote:

will letro serve the purpose for on-cycle water retention prevention at 0.25mg to 0.5mg (5 to 10 drops) a day

Yes it will but use as little of the drug as possible. Even less than five drop will eventually completely obliterate estrogen.

Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view

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00pump
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21 Aug 2009 06:59 #20606 by 00pump

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My dose is 600mg a week...

I need to know where you are your experience... If you are not very advanced 400mg would be sufficient...

Over 600/700mg I see / feel no difference..

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krielos
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21 Aug 2009 09:39 #20645 by krielos

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00pump wrote:

My dose is 600mg a week...

I need to know where you are your experience... If you are not very advanced 400mg would be sufficient...

Over 600/700mg I see / feel no difference..

I would say I am intermediate with regards to experience... I have done quite a few cycles including competition prep cycles but have only used EQ twice in the past at 400mg per week for 12 week cycles which included other goodies. I am interested in the way you do your cycle and would like to know your results and side effects, if any, and how you manage those.

Many Thanks

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HULKman
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21 Aug 2009 15:05 #20674 by HULKman

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Inja wrote:

HULKman wrote:
will letro serve the purpose for on-cycle water retention prevention at 0.25mg to 0.5mg (5 to 10 drops) a day

Yes it will but use as little of the drug as possible. Even less than five drop will eventually completely obliterate estrogen.

So how many drops would you recommend?

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Inja
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22 Aug 2009 00:25 #20696 by Inja

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Start with 0.05 - 0.1mg a week or two before your cycle, then once test plateaus in your system if you notice water retention increase the dose. Once you have found a dose that works for you then use it for future cycles. Try not to stay on the letro for to long though.

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Its just my point of view

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00pump
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22 Aug 2009 10:09 #20705 by 00pump

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Inja is right..

I have moved up to a gram of test now and still am not 1% keen for nookie... its bad stuff, i'm still pondering to myself how to properly come off it due to the massive doses I need....

blah!

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