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No more fartarsing part2, why cycle clen and ECA?
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26 Aug 2009 14:51 #20999
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Oki,
Here is another topic commonly recommended on this forum that makes no sense. Something else I need more rationale for.
Why do people recommend cycling Clen and ECA, commonly at two weeks one then two weeks of the other. Both compounds downregulate the Beta-2 receptors although ephedrine does this more slowly. However after using clen the receptors are hit hard, and you need a reduction in stimulous. By taking ephedrine and increase norepinephrine release you are not removing the stimulous. Not only will the ephedrine be less effective because there are less adrenergic receptors expressed, but it will not allow the Beta-2's to upregulate properly because of the continued stimulous. So when you start the clen again the clen is far less effective and shuts down the receptors much quicker than previous usage.
This protocol just makes no sense in maximising the potential of clen. If you want to run the ECA for long thats fine but the moment you throw in the clen you need to take a break from stimulous.
Here is another topic commonly recommended on this forum that makes no sense. Something else I need more rationale for.
Why do people recommend cycling Clen and ECA, commonly at two weeks one then two weeks of the other. Both compounds downregulate the Beta-2 receptors although ephedrine does this more slowly. However after using clen the receptors are hit hard, and you need a reduction in stimulous. By taking ephedrine and increase norepinephrine release you are not removing the stimulous. Not only will the ephedrine be less effective because there are less adrenergic receptors expressed, but it will not allow the Beta-2's to upregulate properly because of the continued stimulous. So when you start the clen again the clen is far less effective and shuts down the receptors much quicker than previous usage.
This protocol just makes no sense in maximising the potential of clen. If you want to run the ECA for long thats fine but the moment you throw in the clen you need to take a break from stimulous.
Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view
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26 Aug 2009 15:15 #21003
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"Whether You Think You Can or Can't, You're Right"--Henry Ford
Replied by 00pump on topic No more fartarsing part2, why cycle clen and ECA?
Very true... I even make sure my girlfriend doesn't drink caffeine while on clen or after the 2 week cycle to make sure her receptors fully recvover as once again it targets the same receptor sites...
peace... good info...
peace... good info...
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02 Sep 2009 15:31 #21594
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Replied by Abrustetha on topic No more fartarsing part2, why cycle clen and ECA?
There was a cough mixture you could get over the counter that would help with the regulation of your receptors. I can't remember the name, kudos to whoever can remember the name for me.
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02 Sep 2009 15:38 #21597
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If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.
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Replied by milktuds on topic No more fartarsing part2, why cycle clen and ECA?
Ketotifen, but it's not a cough mixture
If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.
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02 Sep 2009 15:41 #21598
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Replied by Sting on topic No more fartarsing part2, why cycle clen and ECA?
Its used by asthma patients
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02 Sep 2009 15:42 #21600
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If everybody does it, is it still cheating?
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Adco Zetofen, it's a anti histamine for asthma sufferers
If everybody does it, is it still cheating?
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02 Sep 2009 15:44 #21601
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If everybody does it, is it still cheating?
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Beesting wrote:
Bee - you beat me to it again!
Its used by asthma patients
Bee - you beat me to it again!
If everybody does it, is it still cheating?
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02 Sep 2009 15:48 #21602
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03 Sep 2009 07:32 #21649
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Replied by 00pump on topic No more fartarsing part2, why cycle clen and ECA?
hmmm, guys... anyone know if bromo can be used to prevent the shakes on clen? if its used for parkinson patients think it can work?
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03 Sep 2009 22:57 #21763
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Replied by Inja on topic No more fartarsing part2, why cycle clen and ECA?
Bromocriptine will make the shakes worse not better. It's a dopamine agonist.
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