need help on cutting!

I need your guys help.
im planning to do a quick cutting cycle.just to help me out a bit.
i dont know if i should run a test prop/tren/winni cycle,

or a test prop /winni cycle

or a OT/winni cycle.

i started dieting about 3 weeks ago
Just need something to give me a boost.
but cant decide what to take.
your input will be highly appreciated.
shot guys.

what does this cutting diet of yours look like and also what fat burner are u taking?

look dj im pretty much just trying to cut out alota shit eating.
at moment

breakfast i have my whey shake,small bowl of oats multi vit,a slice of whole wheat bread.

mid-morning - 1 chicken breast and non fat yoghurt

lunch - tuna and 2 pieces of fruit

mid afternoon - il chow another piece of fruit

at 5 il train

for supper il eat chicken or some form of lean meat and mixed veggies

i dont what you think of this eating protocol of mine but plz judge my ass and correct me where im wrong

fat burner at the moment im using
aminolique green tea liquid fat burner
it works well and its cheap
and it has been lying round here by me so just deciding to use it finish before getting something else

you sure you even getting close on enough protein? I have around 8 chicken breats a day when having chicken?

1 chicken breast around 30 grams, tuna around 25 grams, shake around 20/30 grams supper around 30/40 grams at most...

so you getting around 110/120grams a day of protein... i'm not adding the 4 grams from the whole weat bread, etc......

your diet is a shocker bro,gimme an email on EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED,i do charge but i will get u wheer u need to go

shit sorry guys i forgot to mention that with each meal i have a whey shake with water, to up my protein content,im having bout 6 a day and having my casein shake before bed.hope that helps a bit.

im really want to cut bf at the moment,im sick of struggling my ass off to lose bf.and everytime i diet i lose weight slower than a sloth with broken knee caps.

oh yes ,any advice on cycle???

juice4life i know why u are battling,your carbs are first of all non excistant and your metabolism has now slowed to a snails pace,i bet u go for a dump once ever 3days or so... your metabolism has been shut down and u are probably now over training cos u are more than likely banging the cardio to get the bf down....

hahaha i drop the kid off at school atleast 1nce a day.ya know what you mean with carbs being non existent.its not that im too uneducated about proper dieting ,its just that ive tried alotta things to cut up.on some diets i start losing then all of a sudden . . . .fuckall . . .

when im on cycle i gain well and gaining muscle mass is of no problem.

With the diet i posted to you guys i was hoping to expend more calories than what i was taking in while using my whey shakes to up my protein content.and ive tried it all
i know it didnt look good
but shredding fat is the only thing im struggling with.When im eating 3500 calories a day and doing a proper cycle,i just pack on the mass,no problem.
highly appreciate your guys help and posts, i need to seriously just be patient and just follow advice that is given to me.
i dont have an insane amount of bf,
but would seriously like to get all the poudage of and see what ive worked for these years.
shot guys

so if u are used to eating 3500calories your cutting should be at about 2800-3000calories bud

ya i know yet dropping it to that doesnt help much.i think i should just tottally revise all my strategies and diet.wack it and be patient.start this off then as success comes put an effective cycle into place,after i start dropping adequate levels of bf.

thanx dj

What exactly do you want the AAS to do? Adding steroids help me to maintain muscle in the face of strict calorie deficits, but the increases in metabolism etc from steroids are long term goals that are only really felt after the diet/cycle/weightloss and do not significantly influence weightloss on a cutting cycle.

juice4life wrote:

i dont what you think of this eating protocol of mine but plz judge my ass and correct me where im wrong

Um... WTF?

Well this is not really my area of expertise but if you want post up a pic and I will get the lady to critique...

Well this is not really my area of expertise but if you want post up a pic

:haha :haha :haha

@ inja.So what you are saying is that you do not include any aas when trying to drop bodyfat levels. . . . .

and what is 'um WTF' for

juice4life - just a bit of humour - relax.
Thanks for the laugh!

juice4life wrote:

@ inja what is 'um WTF' for

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juice4life wrote:

i dont what you think of this eating protocol of mine but plz judge my ass and correct me where im wrong

seems to guys are quick to take the mickey out of something.i should watch what i say.

All just in the name of a lil humor bud.

We rag each other all the time !

all good thenB)

if you are trying to lose fat, 5 times a wek cardio for an hour (20 minx3) machines domnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnt go onto a protein shake just yet, your body will store more water and food becaue it thinks you are starving as soon as the weight starts coming off ( week 3) add small ammounts of pure protein with skim milk after implemented a weight training program * more muscle----> more fat being burn ----> smoother sexier you

juice4life wrote:

@ inja.So what you are saying is that you do not include any aas when trying to drop bodyfat levels. . . . .

and what is 'um WTF' for

No, I use steroids in my cutting cycles. What I am saying is I don't use AAS specifically to drop body fat.

Inja wrote:

juice4life wrote:

@ inja.So what you are saying is that you do not include any aas when trying to drop bodyfat levels. . . . .

and what is 'um WTF' for

No, I use steroids in my cutting cycles. What I am saying is I don't use AAS specifically to drop body fat.

ya i totally agree with you,i also dont use aas specifically to drop bf.i just want to get my diet in check now,and after the 1st month on it i want to introduce wateva aas im going to include.
then just train hard eat right and be patient.