Hardening up after cycle....what to use

Hi guys and girl ( beesting)

This week is my last week before i start my pct. Dis a test,var & win cycle. Running the win for only 2 weeks at 60mg a day.
My question:

Does not seem like the win is hardening me up at all, so what can i do to permanently harden up my muscles?

DJ Easy, can diet assist with this o must i wait til next cycle and just plan around that.

Here are some before & after stats:

Before:
109 kg @ 19%BF

After:
116 kg @ 12%BF

So all in all good results, just want to harden up some more.

would it be possible to extend winny and start later with pct?

no winny in your pct,u should harden up and drop water post cycle if your pct is solid...

@ DJ
Been runnung HCG since week 6 and ending HCG before PCT. clomid 100mg x 5days, 5 days off, 50mgx 5days, 5 days of and then 50mg x 5 days. also running kessar for 30 days, starting same time as clomid.

Why then did u recommend the winny for 2 weeks from last shot of test to before PCT start?
Does not sem like its adding anything.

The winny should have harderned you up.
The 1st time I took winny I got really hard but the 2nd time didn't notice much, I used Nomad winny.
Stop the winny before beginning pct.

Extreme wrote:

The winny should have harderned you up.
The 1st time I took winny I got really hard but the 2nd time didn't notice much, I used Nomad winny.
Stop the winny before beginning pct.

Extreme wrote:

The winny should have harderned you up.
The 1st time I took winny I got really hard but the 2nd time didn't notice much, I used Nomad winny.
Stop the winny before beginning pct.

I have 5 days left before pct starts, so maybe the winny will do its magic in those 5 days?!

In that case i would just leave the winny and use it another time

I've got just enough left for 5 days, so i'll ma finish it, nothing bad can come of it.
So when we getting some pics of ur results B

Gonna try do some cutting still and hopefully I wont lose any muscle during the cut

Bro, it takes time to drop water and harden up while other compounds are still clearing and estrogen production is lowering. Only once the estrogen is gone will you be hard. You could extend the winnie in order to achieve this yes, but make sure PCT starts after winnie and all other androgens are out the system...

Hi !
Think you made some very nice progress on your cycle !
In my opinion, PCT is not the optimal time to try and shred/dieting. Well, at least not, if that means you wanna go into cal deficit. That would bring you into a more catabolic state and you might loose more of your gains. Keep the cal up, get some creatine, leucine (maybe eca for pre-work out, if you have to), don't panic and wait for your body to get into the natural balance again.
You got good results for now!
How about a ot, winy, test prop cutting cycle (8wks) in 3-4 months ?

Regards,
Dina