Test prop and anavar

Ok...my goal is to gain 6 - 8 KG Lean maintainable(almost "permanent") mass

This is my cycle plan..please advise me and critisize if need be

Week 1- 3

Test Prop 100mg eod

Week 1 - 6
Anavar 40mg ed

PCT 2 days after last dose of var

Clomid 100mg ed for 5 days
Kessar 20 mg ed 25 days


Questions

- Should I rather run run the prop throughout the cycle at 50mg eod?(getting another bottle of prop is out the question BUDGET )

-I understand that 6-8 Kg is not possible with var only...Thats why I added the prop, but I really don't want to inject so often...is there anything else I could use to achieve my goal of 6-8 lean KG's? Perhaps low dose of Dbol :dry:

Three weeks sounds a bit short. I'm sure that with those low doses and the very short cycle it would probably be worth your while to wait and save some bucks and then do a proper cycle.

Don't rush into things, its a marathon not a sprint.

I would honestly wait.

bro,u are looking for something cheap for the best gains,can i honestly tell u somthing bud, i suggest u buy your pct first,keep that aside,then save up for your gear for your cycle,its not a cheap thing to buy and u dont wanna do half heartidly cos you wont get the results u are looking for going on low doses..

ok thanks guys...could you suggest a cycle and pct for me to save up for?
My goal is to gain around 10kg good lean 'permanent' muscle that i can keep post cycle(more would be great but im being realistic)dont want alot of bloat.

Set yourself a reachable goal. Set what they call a smart objective:

S: Simple
M: Manageable
A: Achievable
R: Realistic
T: Time based

Small guys struggle to do 10kg's off a good expensive cycle.

Personally I think any lean bulk cycle must include equi for extended periods even if its just for the amazing appetite to get. Use this appetite wisely and eat good food and you'll be sure to pack on the lean mass. Secondly I'd take a good wack of test the ester of your choice. I personally don't get that much water when using Testen so I'll use that as Test Prop over a extended equi cycle can become pricey.

Lastly slide some Tren in there towards the end with winny and hopefully Bob's your uncle and you'll keep 90% of your gains post cycle if you don't over train and your nutrition stays spot on.

Hi!
Maybe just a thought upfront: "most of the times, it's not the roids you take that make it a real clean cutting cycle, but your diet, training etc ..."
For a nice solid short cycle I'd do the following:
8 weeks juice, 4-5 weeks pct = 12-13 wks cycle
40mg OT ed instead of var 1-8 wk
100mg test prop eod 1-8 wk
PCT
as simple as that. With a clean diet and good train+recovery you should put on some nice muscle (obviously this is individual to some extend)

another idea "budget" (good chance to work, if you haven't used that much juice in the past)
8 weeks juice, 4-5 weeks pct = 12-13 wks cycle
25mg dbol ed 1-5wk
40mg winny ed 5-8wk
100mg test e e4d 1-6 or 7wk

I know the budget cycle looks a bit unconventional. but with decent PCT, I know it can work

Regards,
Dina

Dinamo wrote:

another idea "budget" (good chance to work, if you haven't used that much juice in the past)
8 weeks juice, 4-5 weeks pct = 12-13 wks cycle
25mg dbol ed 1-5wk
40mg winny ed 5-8wk
100mg test e e4d 1-6 or 7wk

I know the budget cycle looks a bit unconventional. but with decent PCT, I know it can work

Regards,
Dina

Do you guys think this will work?

All depens on budget but if u gonna save up a gang load and want something safe, with gains +- 8kg region (lean ofcourse)
Cycle:
Test prop- 150mg eod, weeks 1-10
EQ- 180mg-200mg eod, weeks 1-12
Anavar- 60mg ed, weeks 8-14
Letro- .25mg ed

PCT:

kessar- 20mg ed, weeks 15-18
Pregnyl- 500iu 2x per week, weeks 10-14

Run Clen during PCT if you wish, will help solidify your gains:

Peace

Mr Moose wrote:

All depens on budget but if u gonna save up a gang load and want something safe, with gains +- 8kg region (lean ofcourse)
Cycle:
Test prop- 150mg eod, weeks 1-10
EQ- 180mg-200mg eod, weeks 1-12
Anavar- 60mg ed, weeks 8-14
Letro- .25mg ed

PCT:

kessar- 20mg ed, weeks 15-18
Pregnyl- 500iu 2x per week, weeks 10-14

Run Clen during PCT if you wish, will help solidify your gains:

Peace

I like.

I've been toying with the idea of adding .25mg Letro ED to my next cycle to keep the sides at bay. Does anybody have some experience with this as the advise I was given was that I should only start Letro when estrogen sides presents itself.

Hey vega: yea ran it on my last cycle, worked like a dream .25 everyday stopped day before pct (tapered down in the last week).

Thing is if you only start running when sides appear a dose of .25 is far too small to clear. So its much better to run .25 from the start. Actually start 2 weeks before your cycle so it can stabilize in your blood and jam it, will keep water retention down aswel so why not and if ur running with test which iam sure your planning on .25 wont show any effects on ur libido.

Actually used the pills (femara) in my first cycle but they were tedious for that dose and had 2 measure them on a scale, starting next cycle with LP letro in a few days. Hope it works mixed reviews everwhere.

Peace

.25 killed my libido while running prop...

Letro is notorious for being an individul drug but I have never heard of issues on a .25 dose and none of my friends or people who I deal with have either:
Then again I have not dealt with any letro besides the femara tabs- which letro were you using? if it was LP at that dose would really like some feedback:
peace

Inja wrote:

.25 killed my libido while running prop...

I'm not happy to hear that cause' usually I look so forward to a cycle cause' then I'm like a rabbit.

As you said its an individual drug, but 0.25 did nothing for me... only when it was bumped up to 1.5mg did it do anything...

I need min 2mg of letro pd for 600mg of gear and then its just not enough, if I drop my test to 300mg then I stay rock hard with no soft breast tissue... I need extreme doses of letro for it to work....

vega5 wrote:
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I'm not happy to hear that cause' usually I look so forward to a cycle cause' then I'm like a rabbit.[/quote]

rabbit? not quite as extreme as a "Jackrabbit" then?