First proper cycle - Crit please

Hi guys,

I am busy putting together my first proper cycle (having done one superbol cycle about 2 years ago) and I need some input from the vets out there.

Current stats: 32yrs old, 96kg, 1.86m, 13% bf

Training for past 15 years. Solid training and diet for the past 3 years.

I currently train 6 days a week. 4 day split for weight training. Cardio consists of running, cross trainer, cycling.

Mon - Chest \ Triceps \ Abs
Tue - Cardio 40mins
Wed - Legs \ Abs
Thur - Back \ Biceps
Fri - Shoulders \ Abs \ Cardio 40mins
Sat - Cardio 60mins

My proposed cycle is 8wks long and looks something like this:

Wks 1 to 8
- Test E 300mg, 1\wk
- Anavar 40mg, ED
- Arimidex 0.5mg, ED
- HCG 250iu, 2\wk

PCT starts 2 wks after last Test E shot.

Day 1 - 100mg Nolvadex
Day 2 to 10 - 60mg Nolvadex ED
Day 11 to 20- 40mg Nolvadex ED

My goal is to pick up some lean weight and lowering my bodyfat.

Welcome here!!!

Why do you want to take Arimidex for 8 weeks, if it's your 1st cycle you wont know if you gymo prone so just keep it around incase you need it.

I'd also split the Test E shot to twice a week, pin every 3.5days.

Have you HCG ?
If not, get some.

You Nolva dosages are very high ???
The normal dosage is 20mg ED sometimes 40mg ED.

Do a search on here there is tons of info about 1st cycles, normal recommendation is a Test cycle only.

how about doing 600mg of test a week for 10 weeks. dianabol for the first 4 weeks.winstrol for 2 weeks after your last shot of test,then pct of kessar at 20mg a day for 30 days and 500iu's of hcg 3 times a week for 3 weeks.

Thank you for responding guys. I really appreciate the help and the luxury of speaking with guys who has been there.

@Extreme: My thoughts behind the Arimidex was to decrease conversion to estrogen and in so doing decrease the bloat and possible gyno. I don`t know if my reasoning is flawed? I do have HCG yes.

@djeasye: With my proposed cycle I was trying to keep it very simple as I am not experienced in this field at all. I added Anavar because it is deemed relatively safe as well as effective for strength as well as some lean gains.

Don`t you think what you are suggesting is too advanced for me? I would also like to know your thoughts on using Arimidex throughout a cycle, as well as HCG at a lower dose from day one? I have read up quite a bit and it makes sense to me, but I have no real world experience with using these substances. :blush: Thats where you vets come in!

Diazepam, I think the cycle that dj suggested is a very simple cycle and perfect for a new user so you'll be very satisfied with your results.

Thanks for the input Vega5. I see that Test and Dianabol seems to be a firm favourite.

Please excuse all the questions, I am not questioning you guys, I really want to learn.

I would like to know that if I up the Test to 600mg, would that be once a week, or 2 pins eg Mon and Fri? Secondly, why would Dianobol be better for this cycle, considering my goals, instead of Anavar? I like what djeasye said about the HCG and Kessar...have anyone ever used HCG and arimidex from the start of cycle?

I wouldn't know what dj's thinking was but I would think its because d-bol is a lot more androgenic than anavar and you'll get rid of the water with the winnie anyway.

Diazepam wrote:

Thank you for responding guys. I really appreciate the help and the luxury of speaking with guys who has been there.

@Extreme: My thoughts behind the Arimidex was to decrease conversion to estrogen and in so doing decrease the bloat and possible gyno. I don`t know if my reasoning is flawed? I do have HCG yes.

@djeasye: With my proposed cycle I was trying to keep it very simple as I am not experienced in this field at all. I added Anavar because it is deemed relatively safe as well as effective for strength as well as some lean gains.

Don`t you think what you are suggesting is too advanced for me? I would also like to know your thoughts on using Arimidex throughout a cycle, as well as HCG at a lower dose from day one? I have read up quite a bit and it makes sense to me, but I have no real world experience with using these substances. :blush: Thats where you vets come in!

Im on .5 adex ED right now with 800 mgs of test cyp and im looking mean and lean.No problems with niples whatsoever. Just be careful with how you eat as low estrogen lvls can have a negative impact on your good cholesterol. up that test dude to 600 mgs. I frontloaded with test prop because of dbols hair loss issues. I would do anavar last 4-5 weeks of the cycle as well but i dont have any . Good move of not using Adex in PCT as it can be a problem for recovery. I would however do 100 mgs of clomid for the first week of pct together with one tab of nolvadex for 30 days.Those dosages are a bit high you got there. Some guys like Inja will now comment and argue how clomid is a waste of time blah blah. Anyways its been used for years and years and it works good. Also get ZMA tribulus longfelia jack extract as well for pct together with high dosages of vit C. Good luck dude.

O yea you dont need to start low doses of HCG from day 1. I would start at week 4 or 5. 200-250 IU should suffice two or 3 times per week. However I would not go into pct with HCG I would rather stop HCG during those 2 weeks after the last shot of the long acting esther.

Thanks Lesa! I will incorporate your advice regarding HCG from wk 4 of my cycle. I did not plan on frontloading with dbol, but the test prop idea sounds good. So did you start with Test prop, test cyp and arimidex? How much test prop did you use?

Diazepam wrote:

Thanks Lesa! I will incorporate your advice regarding HCG from wk 4 of my cycle. I did not plan on frontloading with dbol, but the test prop idea sounds good. So did you start with Test prop, test cyp and arimidex? How much test prop did you use?

Well i hit it 3 times per week 50 mg monday wednesday friday (missions for EOD shots but yea you supposed to shoot EOD). Same time i started .5 arimidex i cut those small ass tabs in half and same day i started with a 800 mg shot of cyp then 400 mgs twice per week and 1 propecia. And its going super sweet. Also my hair is looking solid havent seen any shedding whastoever. Adex helps with that excess estrogen that plays a role in hair loss.