prop cycle

Gday gents.

My second cycle will consist of :

Week 1-6 prop 100mg eod
week 2-(this is where i need your help) WIN 60mg/day

Can i run the win past the prop, meaning week 2-7?

How would you guys recommend PCT.

Run Prop week 1 - 8 150mg -200mg EOD
Winstrol you could do week 5 -8, 40 - 50mg/day
Run HCG on cycle
Start PCT 5 days after last Prop shot

can i not run the win a week longer to get rid of unwanted water, otherwise till before i start pct.

You could if you want to. Don't think it is necessary.
You won't hold much water with Prop, if any. If you are that concerned run A-dex to keep water down.

prop wont give u much water and whilst using winstrol at the same time u will be dry dry dry. i wouldnt use winstrol for longer than 6 weeks 4 weeks is my limit as my joints dry out to much. rather run prop for 6 weeks and winstrol forthe same length.even 30mg orally every day will do the trick

Sure you can

Inja, wht PCT protocol would u recommend?

For PCT I'm thinking nolva/kessar 40\40\20\20 and clomid 25\25\25\25. Let me know if this would suffice. Don't c a need for hcg as its a short cycle, but please correct me if I'm wrong

I've done PCT's with and without HCG but since using it I haven't looked back.
100mg EOD is 350mg a week... If you are young and this is your only compound then you might recover from this using SERMs alone, but I would run them 6 weeks to be sure.
You ae however also running 420mg Winnie a week. That's 800mg of AAS a week right.
I'd definately use HCG for that.

Hi Inja would you recomend useing HCG Through out a cycle if the dude was older, say in his 50s and or useing say 900mgs Test E, 700mgs Eq,and 200mgs D/Bol per week,
droping d/bol after 4 weeks, running Test+ Eq for 12 weeks and then Test prop+Anav last 4weeks. What you say.?!!!!!!!

that would shut anyone down quite hard.... he can use it during the cycle, I'm scared of HCG and prefer to only use it during the middle of the cycle and at the end of it... that stuff can F*** you up properly...

It was recomended to use 250ius per week through out the course, will that F**k him up.???

I wouldn't worry about using the HCG during the course.. that stuff is dangerous as I said... it can really damage you and I don't know if their is a way to correct the damage... hence I use it middle and end, if its a very low dosed course I would only use it at the end....

You got me worried now Pump

I am on an eight week Cycle
Week 1 - 8 Prop 150mg EOD
Week 1 - 6 Masteron 150mg EOD
Week 1 - ? Anavar 80mg

I was thinking of using HCG from week 4 - 9 @ 500IU E3D. Is this too much or how should I use it?

The issue comes with it's ability to desensitize the testicles to LH, then we have a problem... hence, i'll rather be shut down and then kick in it than keep running the stuff... maybe i'm wrong, I don't know... just scared messing with this, specially when I do still want to have kids..

Yeah, I tend to pin low doses and it works well for me. Last cycle I shot 330iu twice a week on cycle and it kept me plump, I actually didn't even run it post cycle due to another minor hiccup, and still recovered fine. Actually gaining lean mass on PCT.

I have picked up 1kg now on my PCT... been great.. lost nothing and picked up 8kgs on cycle plus 1 now...

I think it comes from the low estrogen I had while on my cycle, then coming off the letro I kept everything...

Awesome bro, glad to see I'm not the only one. I've never gained on PCT before. Also around 1kg and I think I'm noticing it mostly in the shoulders, hitting them a bit heavier.

inja, are you saying that you ran HCG all through your cycle if so then i an cofused, pump says to only start at week 4 becouse of the sides.??

I found that info sorry for the cut and paste, :blink:
Some users find that they have better gains and quicker recovery while using HCG during a cycle of AAS. This first claim is more than likely due to the fact that the body has a high level of natural testosterone as well as that provided by the use of AAS, and the second may be somewhat justifiable, as stimulating the testes to secrete testosterone intermittently may aid recovery. Perhaps this is due to the maintenence of a higher level of Inter-Testicular-Testosterone (ITT) provided by the intermittent use of HCG, which should greatly aid recovery of the hypothalamic-testicular-pituitary-axis. An average dose of HCG during a cycle is between 500iu to 1000iu every week to every other week while on a cycle. In one study I looked at, a single injection of 6000IU of HCG elevated test levels for 6 days. That´s why a lot of people recommend taking it every 3-5 days. We´d have more stable blood levels, though if we shot it more frequently. Remember, it´s non-estrified and a water-based injectable, after all. In that same study I just spoke of, 1500IU of HCG shot test levels up between 250 and 300%. Taking it all at once however will cause an increase in estrogen levels caused by the aromatization of normal testosterone; the result may be a case of gynecomastia for the user (3).

no, what i'm saying is there are many ways to do it....

personally I do it half way through a cycle and at the end... half way through at 1500iu mon/wed/fri then at the end the same dose...

and i'm fine... sometimes if I take some heavy stuff, I have to extend hcg another 2 shots.. but at a lower dose around 1000iu..

you can take as inja said, LOW dose through out the whole cycle, the reason why I don't is that I start to get soft breast tissue... even with allot of letro in me...

No think I started round week six or something. Ran it right up to fifteen... Or whatever it was. Sorry, dunno where my cycle log is.

Hey Pump, sorry for the hijack but what is your weight now after your recent cycle?

114 at 9 % bodyfat... i'm allot lighter than I used to be... had to stop juice and training because of health reasons.. so allot of the gains where muscle memory, so I believe on my next cycle I should be back up at 120kgs and start pushing past my max weight. looking forward to the next 3 years now that I have my health under control....