2nd cycle?

hey
im trying to decide on my second cycle, but keep gettin loads of contradictory information.

In may/june/july I used a cycle of sustanon (Organon 250mg) at a dose of 500mg per week, and Deca (Organon 150mg) at 300mg per week. All for a total of ten weeks.
I got some decent gains, about 8kg, tho i lost about 2kg after the cycle, and suffered zero side effects (except a little bacne).
Im now trying to decide what to use next, pref another ten week cycle.

Have looked at equi but most reports recommend a min 12 weeks... Other options i've looked into included test enanthate, testoviron, deca (again)...

Im currently weighing 79kg, very lean, so am lookin for quite a bit more size, as close to 90kg as possible. Quite a hard gainer and (blessed?:huh: ) with a natural leanness, so keen to bulk, tho i am interested in equi even just for the appetite (anyone know how true that is?)

Any suggestions would be so appreciated.
Have pretty good access to most brands and products too, but would like to keep the price reasonable

Thanks

150mg organon deca...hmmmm u bought fakes my friend...they should be 100mg per ml...

sorry, my bad... it was 100mg...:blush:

How old are you, 73kg is a bit light to start cycling... Worried you were too young.

If you wanted to chainge compounds completely following a Sust Deca cycle you might opt for a Test E, Dbol, EQ cycle. You will not gain as much mass as the first cycle but you will find it a good stack.

im 24, just seem to have a very light build, with a pretty low body fat...

yeah i have considered the test e,equi and d bol cycle, but just a bit worried how much i'll gain seen as gains from sus & deca weren't so great (i think at least, would you consider 6kg lean a poor gain for that cycle?)

also, read quite a bit recommending equi for a min of twelve weeks, and that would be my max...

what sort of doses would be recommended for the test e, equi, d bol cycle?
been lookin at the pgw equi 350 and test e 300.

Thanks for your input
Peace

Wassup:
6 kg's lean? At your weight even i Wouldnt consider that bad at all, those are solid gains, would have to say you started too early, should have done a bit more natural work first. Dont know what you guys think but another good option might be the pgw combo and eq for 12 weeks frontloaded with d-bol for 3.
Planning on something along those lines for next year.
Your doses would be fairly small though due to your size around the 400-500mg test per week and about the same with the eq, d-bol 30-40mg per day first 3 weeks.
Peace

In my opinion you can't even compare deca and equi. Equi is really one of the best compounds out there. You'll most probably not get all 6kgs that you looking but even if you get 4 you'll be able to hang onto most of it in you PCT and post cycle diet and supplementation are in order. The other nice thing is that you can run equi for quite a long cycle as its considered to be quite a mild steroid, 16 week cycles aren't unheard of with this compound. You have quite a nice athletic build (judging by your avi) and you don't want to screw that up with the deca. I know its only temporary but still. Good choice on the PGW!!!

thanks guys, i do think equi might be the way to go... think i might just be gettin too greedy for mass if i go for deca again..

ya dont wanna mess up the definition too much so some lean gains would be best i suppose.

the only thing holding me back on the equi was i was planning a ten week cycle, but i suppose i could run it for another 4 then.

How heavy of a pct would you recommend for that cycle, cost effectiveness in mind.

Thanks a lot for your input, i'll keep updating progress.

Off to check out the samsons classic now for some motivationB)
peace

u a durban boy spike...maybe see u there... i've watched the pre judging and fong looks good,michael adonis,the heavy weights a guy named "tiny" looks sharp...

yeah just caught the end of the pre judging, saw tiny, definately had the edge in his lineup.

not likely to make the show tho, all money bein saved for the next cycle, enjoy it tho, looks to be a good one

Bro, 6kg is good. Run the Test EQ and kickstart with some Dbol if you like (and not using test combo).

sweet. between the test e kickstartd with dbol and the pgw test combo? much of a difference? where would i notice it? once a week doses alright with the combo?

and last but not least, any ancillaries during the cycle?

Much appreciated

ok just found the thread on testen vs combo... so think the combo is a better option for me for once a week injections

Ancillaries are dependent on what kind of side effects you had. If you keep your dose of test to 500 a week like your last cycle you can expect less. If you had estrogen related side effects then get an A.I. on cycle. If you noticed any androgen related side effects get a 5AR inhibitor. If you go above 500mg of test (a dose you don't know how your body will handle it) I would definately recommend using finasteride (5AR Inhibitor) for your prostate, and that you have an A.I. on hand.

The new PGW Super Test is skewed in favour of long esters so it would be better to pin 2x per week, but if you are set on 1x per week (don't worry, it won't fuck your cycle up) then yes, a combo like super test is a better option

sweet. thanks for sharing the knowledge
Didnt have any sidies on my last cycle so hopefully wont have any problems.

gonna go for once a week, just makes things a hell of a lot easier for me.

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