New and Curious.

Totaly Noob. But a little background before my request.
Early 30s. 90kg. 5ft 11.
Been lifting for over 7 years now off and on.
Been off for quite some time and and looking to bulk to get started again, this time with gear.
This will be my first time on gear so I am a noob at it and wanted to look into a 10 - 12 week cycle that would require minimum PCT.
Suggestions on this cycle would be epic.
Thanks.
Would like to keep the whole thing to 10-12 weeks including the PCT if needed.
Was thinking Equi (Boldenone?). Good idea?
Shot.

first of all get a proper diet and train continuously for at least 6 months before u start gear..

I have been training for years and understand diet properly. I appreciate the comments but I have successfully done this for years without gear.
I just want more of an edge this time, even more so based on my age. I don't gain like I did 10 even 5 years ago.
I actually have been back in the gym on "Starting Strength" if you know the wourkout for 3 months solid getting my body back in the game.
So having said that I will get things in order for the next couple of months before starting any cycle.
But that still means I want to get suggestions, look at prices, source stuff, and prepare.

Lekker wrote:

I have been training for years and understand diet properly. I appreciate the comments but I have successfully done this for years without gear.
I just want more of an edge this time, even more so based on my age. I don't gain like I did 10 even 5 years ago.
I actually have been back in the gym on "Starting Strength" if you know the wourkout for 3 months solid getting my body back in the game.
So having said that I will get things in order for the next couple of months before starting any cycle.
But that still means I want to get suggestions, look at prices, source stuff, and prepare.

Please relook your last sentence and read the following: www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/rules

Done - I do not mean to "ask" for that information. Although I have to admit I don't knwo where to go for it. BUT I am asking about the cycle. I was just saying that is stuff I still need to sort out.
Hope I am not being misleading - let me restate - I do not want anyone to post a source or price!
Cheers.

hey man welcome to the site.
as this is you're first cycle you're gonna want to run a single ester test (maybe frontloading with something like d-bol depending on the ester)
equi won't be great for +- 8 weeks(taking into consideration you're original post), it needs to be run for longer.
you can possibly look into using sustanon which can be run for that period (although 10-12 weeks is better)
if I may ask why are you setting 10-12 weeks as you're limit for cycle+PCT?

I can push it a few more weeks. To be honest I would want to do something small / simple since its my first time. Its just me being cautious. As with any new supplement I want to see how I react and how it effects me before committing to a long run on ANYTHING. I figured 8,10,or maybe 14 weeks should be enough to see as well as stay in a safe trial period for a guy doing something new.
Thanks!

awesome, well in that case why don't you run test enanthate and d-bol for 12 weeks and then PCT consisting of kessar and pregnyl?
this is a basic but very effective first timer's cycle.
leave the equi and all the other fancy stuff for later on when you get more experienced with AAS usage

Jayman wrote:

awesome, well in that case why don't you run test enanthate and d-bol for 12 weeks and then PCT consisting of kessar and pregnyl?
this is a basic but very effective first timer's cycle.
leave the equi and all the other fancy stuff for later on when you get more experienced with AAS usage

6 weeks on orals max especially dbol.

sorry forgot to mention, the d-bol is just to kickstart the cycle since the enanthate will take a few weeks to really start kicking in.
keep to 4 weeks, and as the wise dj said never exceed 6 weeks on an oral, you're liver takes a beating

That sounds good,
Can you break down in noob speek - ie X every day for 4 weeks then X every 3day for 6 weeks.
something like that
Thanks all

ok I think a dosage of 40mg/day on the d-bol should be sufficient and 500mg/week for the test but split into 2 doses on monday and thurs.
so:
week 1-4 d-bol @ 40mg/day split into multiple doses
week 1-12 test enanthate @ 250mg on monday & 250mg on thursday.

2 weeks after you're last shot of test you will start you're PCT,
kessar @ 20mg/day for 30 days
hcg @ 500iu's 2 times per week

that should be sufficient

Shot dude -
Stoked

Just to avoid my noob failing can someone give me the long names for:
d-bol
test enanthate
kessar
hcg

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Just want to read up and make sure I am looking at the right gear.
Cheers

www.google.com www.steroid.com read dude.we where all noobs at one stage but we didnt get spoon fed we did the research and reading ourselves

dbol (Dianabol)
Test enenthate - testosterone enanthate
kessar - tamaxofen
HCG - Human chronic gonadatropin

Whenever you go on Test cycles,always take flax seed oil and a collagen supplement.Large doses of Testosterone increase protein synthesis by 50 times the normal rate,but it drops your collagen production by 80%.So your muscles will outgrow your tendons and ligaments resulting in a risk of injury.

djeasye wrote:

www.google.com www.steroid.com read dude.we where all noobs at one stage but we didnt get spoon fed we did the research and reading ourselves

I did and have before signing up on this site.
Google also returns mixed results and I defiantly don't want to confuse anything this important.

tiny wrote:

Whenever you go on Test cycles,always take flax seed oil and a collagen supplement.Large doses of Testosterone increase protein synthesis by 50 times the normal rate,but it drops your collagen production by 80%.So your muscles will outgrow your tendons and ligaments resulting in a risk of injury.

Excellent info, what do you recommend for a Collagen supplement.

Shot!

Lekker wrote:

tiny wrote:

Whenever you go on Test cycles,always take flax seed oil and a collagen supplement.Large doses of Testosterone increase protein synthesis by 50 times the normal rate,but it drops your collagen production by 80%.So your muscles will outgrow your tendons and ligaments resulting in a risk of injury.

Excellent info, what do you recommend for a Collagen supplement.

Dischem sells Collagen pills

Adding links and a bit more info to save time if anyone else needs this information.

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dbol = Dianabol = Dbol - Methandrostenolone (LINK)
Test enenthate - testosterone enanthate (LINK)
kessar = Tamoxifen (LINK)
HCG - Human chronic gonadatropin (LINK)

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Credit to djeasye for the names

:stupid :throw

Read this for first time advice:
www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/11-gene...Q-section-help#20050

I tried to put lots of abbreviations there as well... If you have more you would like please suggest it in another thread titles "Comments on the FAQ section help thread".

For your first cycle 500mg test a week is fine. Have an A.I. on hand. Buy your PCT with your cycle. Run the HCG on cycle at low doses and continue till two weeks post last shot. In these two weeks you can slightly increase HCG. Run the SERM from the last shot and 4 weeks after HCG.
If you really must then Kickstart with the Dbol, but you will never know how long it takes for the test to kick in if you do this...