testen300 kick in time

hey guys running PGW testen 300 at 750mg/week its first cycle ive run using test e as my base as ive always used sustanon. its week 4 now and ive havent seen any results, eating 4500 calories a day, gettin plent of rest. when can i see some good gains off this cycle?

4-6 weeks u should notice the difference, 4500calories? ummm post up that diet i would love to see how u manage to fit that in your gut...

05:00 100g oats with 1 tablespoon penaut butter(no sugar/salt), 250mls skim milk, 40grams whey protein, 500ml water

07:00 six egg whites, 2 low gi/high protein health bread with 100 grams cottage chesse

10:00 75grams whey protein powder with 500mg flaxseed oil

12:00 three chicken breast fillets, 1 cup of brown rice and 100 grams brocolli

13:00 pre-workoute and post workout shake 50g whey, 50g caseinate, 2 bananas, 10g glatamine with two slices of low gi bread with jam for post-workout insulin spike

15:00 1 can of tuna, four rice cakes

17:00 80gramns whey protein shake with 500mg flaxseed oil

19:00 meal consisting of roughly the same food as lunch, maybe replace chicken with some steak etc

21:00 whey protein/caseinate blend shake




i posted up this a while back but ive since adjusted my diet as u guys recommended by adding in more essential fats and also incorporing more simple carbs for my post workout meal.

ummm i dont know how u got to 4500calories with that bud. also why weight your whey protein but not your chicken? and also to much whey in one sitting... u will grow on 3500calories if u where to get your meal size and macro nutrient portioning correct.to get your 4500calories i would honestly expect to have seen about 200g of fats alone and there is no where near that in your diet dude..

garra wrote:

two slices of low gi bread with jam for post-workout insulin spike

:huh:
Low GI bread... Insulin spike... It's not about how much jam you put on, its about total GI of the meal. Adding in Low GI bread and casein protein to post workout nutrition will only dampen the possible insulin spike. If you having bread, have white. Or add in simple sugars etc to your shake, or a raisins and dates. Also leave the casein post workout and stick to whey. This meal is important.

In addition I think you ave way to little carb for bulking. I would throw in more carb throughout the day. And space out the protein better dude. One sitting its 25g the next its 80g? Keep the meals consistent. There is also more space in the diet for fat if you choose.


You will start to notice the test now if you didn't frontload.

thanks for the feedback guys..sorry ive only been to reply now but mweb and telkom have been messing me around and temp disconnected my inet. Well im back online.

So recommendations; ill definately space out my protein intake better and try to spike up my good carb intake. With regards to fats, do i stick to just unsaturated fats?

oh and as for the teste kick in...just killed the highest dumbell increment at the Virgin active on the one arm dumbell row this week, also pushed 5 reps of 44kg on an incline dumbell press. Its like the strength increase just came outta nowehere. PGW testen300 kicks ASS!!!

garra wrote:

With regards to fats, do i stick to just unsaturated fats?

poly and mono unsaturated fats,also buy omega 3 and 6 tabs.Eat lots of oily fish like sardine, salmon, trout, anchovy, and mackerel at least once a day.

garra wrote:

05:00 100g oats with 1 tablespoon penaut butter(no sugar/salt), 250mls skim milk, 40grams whey protein, 500ml water

07:00 six egg whites, 2 low gi/high protein health bread with 100 grams cottage chesse

10:00 75grams whey protein powder with 500mg flaxseed oil

12:00 three chicken breast fillets, 1 cup of brown rice and 100 grams brocolli

13:00 pre-workoute and post workout shake 50g whey, 50g caseinate, 2 bananas, 10g glatamine with two slices of low gi bread with jam for post-workout insulin spike

15:00 1 can of tuna, four rice cakes

17:00 80gramns whey protein shake with 500mg flaxseed oil

19:00 meal consisting of roughly the same food as lunch, maybe replace chicken with some steak etc

21:00 whey protein/caseinate blend shake


Jayzuz boet you must be very rich and do not work to get those meals in and prepare them.
Also im sure you will be seeing results with that testen in the 7th week.

SNOK1986 wrote:

garra wrote:

05:00 100g oats with 1 tablespoon penaut butter(no sugar/salt), 250mls skim milk, 40grams whey protein, 500ml water

07:00 six egg whites, 2 low gi/high protein health bread with 100 grams cottage chesse

10:00 75grams whey protein powder with 500mg flaxseed oil

12:00 three chicken breast fillets, 1 cup of brown rice and 100 grams brocolli

13:00 pre-workoute and post workout shake 50g whey, 50g caseinate, 2 bananas, 10g glatamine with two slices of low gi bread with jam for post-workout insulin spike

15:00 1 can of tuna, four rice cakes

17:00 80gramns whey protein shake with 500mg flaxseed oil

19:00 meal consisting of roughly the same food as lunch, maybe replace chicken with some steak etc

21:00 whey protein/caseinate blend shake


Jayzuz boet you must be very rich and do not work to get those meals in and prepare them.
Also im sure you will be seeing results with that testen in the 7th week.

Hows that? I can prepare all of this(and more) in 30 min.

good form :bow

jackrabbit1 wrote:
quote]Hows that? I can prepare all of this(and more) in 30 min.[/quote]

Seems like one of these days were going to have a "cook-off"


:laugh: :laugh:

Hmm.. Takes me a little longer Jack.

Think I need to go back to the kitchen and throw out some more reps on the chopping board.

LSJ wrote:

jackrabbit1 wrote:
quote]Hows that? I can prepare all of this(and more) in 30 min.

Seems like one of these days were going to have a "cook-off"


:laugh: :laugh:[/quote]

My mate George Foreman does most of the cooking. O ja - also my other 2 mates LG and Bosch!

Remember - i'm married therefore have to cook all my meals!

PS - Hope the wife doesnt read this! :laugh: