Novice bulking cycle

Hey guys I've been a member for a couple of months now and have been trawling these boards religiously.
First I'd like to complement the mods and experienced posters for the wealth of information they ritually spew on a regular basis.

I've been doing a fair bit of research over the past year and half and I'm ready to gear up for my first cycle.

First some stats:
age: 23
weight: 107
height: +/- 1.85m
bodyfat: 16-20% wild-wild guess
training exp: 6yrs(2yrs serious)

Here's my planned cycle:

Week 1 - 10
Deca 350
Testen 300

simple...

But my biggest problem is planning and structuring my PCT.
How long after my last shots should it start?
Would Clomiphene and HCG make a good PCT.

Please be so kind as to comment on my beginner cycle and please can you help me sort out my PCT.

One more question; would the combination of esters in Sust produce better resuts if I used it instead of Testen at similar doses?
I've also considered kick-starting with d-bols since I have some lying around.

bud push up your test a bit,300mg a week is a tad low...hcg and clomid will be good...

Yes kick start the first 2 weeks with D bols.
You can start PCT 18 days afetr last shot of Deca- your BF% is pretty high so I guys 18-21 days should be good. I always use 18days since I live and die by l Rea' s books most guys will say 21 days. Ignore the Sus for now its a pretty long ester. Id run HCG starting the last week of injection. And Pct would be Clomid. kessar for atleast 4 weeks.

Week 1 and 2 Dbol 35 mg a day
Week 1-10 Test andDeca
Week 10 -12 HCG 1500ui every 5 th day (minimum)
Week 12-15 Kessar 20mg a day
Week 12 Clomid 50 m a day
Week 14 Clomid 50mg a day

Nice and Basic

A normal novice bulking cycle consists out of the 3 basic components MxT suggests. D-bol (Frontload) with test and deca base, 10 weeks in duration. I would keep the deca at that dose and push the test to 1.5 ml making it 450 mg per week. I always like to run the test a little higher than the deca as this helps with the progesterone sides deca could deliver. You can even looking at half the dose twice a week and this will stabalise the levels in your blood better. Would use your clomid as an anti-e during your cycle if the d-bol or test starts aromatizing if you are a little sensitive.

The usual dose for a basic mass (Bread and Butter) cycle is deca (+/- 400 mg p/w) and test (500 mg p/w) and the d-bol frontload (usually 2 -4 weeks and no more than 4 weeks).

I am still not convinced about the kessar deca combo and would advise to just stick to the HCG and clomid, but you must decide what is best for you as the kessar could amplify the progesterone sides from the deca.

A very nice add-on would be proviron in the last 2 weeks at 50mg p/d and not more than 100 mg p/d (funds allowing), this would help with water retention and solidify gains. Adding Kynosellen to your PCT would also keep you anabolic and be a nice bridge to keep the energy and help with endurance as well, you tend to hold onto your gains better if Kyno is in the mix as well.

If the proviron is a bit heavy on your pocket then I suggest oral winny in the last 2-3 weeks, this will not only help with water, but will also enhance the gains of those last weeks as your body would have leveled the playing feild with the artificial hormones and gains will slow down and may even stop in those last 2 or so weeks. If you decide to go this route I would not run the D-Bol more than 2 weeks as it is liver toxic as well as the winny.

Sus is a nice blend of 4 esters, 2 short and 2 long. You have to inject twice a week to take advantage of the short esters though, but I would stick to an enanthate or cypionate for now.

Now you have some more options and can choose from the responses.

At the end of this kind of cycle, how soon can I start cutting?

I'm thinking just clen and eca. Do I need anything else?

What kind of doses would I need to run for these compunds, and for how long?

Include Clen and Kynoselen in your PCT, ketotifen to keep the beta receptors up and you can run clen at max 120 mcgs p/d, this will keep you anabolic and help with fat loss, esp the kyno as it has a anabolic throw in and you might even gain on this protocol

Are Kynoselen and ketotifen easily available?

Netro wrote:

A normal novice bulking cycle consists out of the 3 basic components MxT suggests. D-bol (Frontload) with test and deca base, 10 weeks in duration. I would keep the deca at that dose and push the test to 1.5 ml making it 450 mg per week. I always like to run the test a little higher than the deca as this helps with the progesterone sides deca could deliver. You can even looking at half the dose twice a week and this will stabalise the levels in your blood better. Would use your clomid as an anti-e during your cycle if the d-bol or test starts aromatizing if you are a little sensitive.

The usual dose for a basic mass (Bread and Butter) cycle is deca (+/- 400 mg p/w) and test (500 mg p/w) and the d-bol frontload (usually 2 -4 weeks and no more than 4 weeks).

I am still not convinced about the kessar deca combo and would advise to just stick to the HCG and clomid, but you must decide what is best for you as the kessar could amplify the progesterone sides from the deca.

A very nice add-on would be proviron in the last 2 weeks at 50mg p/d and not more than 100 mg p/d (funds allowing), this would help with water retention and solidify gains. Adding Kynosellen to your PCT would also keep you anabolic and be a nice bridge to keep the energy and help with endurance as well, you tend to hold onto your gains better if Kyno is in the mix as well.

If the proviron is a bit heavy on your pocket then I suggest oral winny in the last 2-3 weeks, this will not only help with water, but will also enhance the gains of those last weeks as your body would have leveled the playing feild with the artificial hormones and gains will slow down and may even stop in those last 2 or so weeks. If you decide to go this route I would not run the D-Bol more than 2 weeks as it is liver toxic as well as the winny.

Sus is a nice blend of 4 esters, 2 short and 2 long. You have to inject twice a week to take advantage of the short esters though, but I would stick to an enanthate or cypionate for now.

Now you have some more options and can choose from the responses.

Good post Netro!

soloR wrote:

Are Kynoselen and ketotifen easily available?

Kynosellen is not that easy to get anymore, but go to the contact page and send me a mail so that I can put you into contact with someone who can help you...

Ketotifen can be bought at any pharmacy.... ask for ADCO-Ketotifen.

BTW: Is that profile pic of yours Genisis weights?

Thanks for responses guys.
Could anyone with experience with Kynosellen or ketotifen please suggest dosages and such?

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Keto - 5ml 3 x p/d
Kyno - 1-2ml 2 x p/w (Monday and Thursday)

OK Lets go at this again...

I recently got all my gear and here's the plan, and then some questions.

Week 1 and 2 Dbol 35 mg a day
Week 1-10 Test 450mg pw and Deca 350mg pw
Week 8-10 Winstrol 50mg pd
Week 10-12 HCG 1500ui every 5th day (minimum)
Week 12 Clomid 50mg a day
Week 14 Clomid 50mg a day

Any comments will be greatly appreciated.

I'm concerned about gyno rearing its ugly head in the middle of my cycle and so I was hoping to take Proviron to help manage oestrogen without suppressing it. I've also read that vit B6 is a good agent for managing progesterone mediated sides.

Would it be wise for me to use Proviron with the winny? Perhaps at a low dose over the last 3 weeks?

A more pressing question I have is the following;
Is it possible to determine dosages for AAS based on bodyweight etc.? Its just that I feel like I'm groping around in the dark when it comes to dosing.
Would the dose used by an 80kg man have the same effects for a 105kg man? How do we take the guess work out?

netro is it a must to split the ket, i juz took all 15ml at once b4 bed. should i split the dosages next time??

thankx alot.

Yip, like with gear you need to have consistent levels or the effect will not be the same. It's a syrup so short half life