my cycle

i have yet to see one natural or juiced bodybuilder who can say he hasnt lost a gram of muscle while following a diet.
u can minimise loss of muscle with good food and roids but u can prevent it with slin
nowadays slin is used everywhere, throughout everything and at various levels, which is why you see monsters on stage
btw that natural you talk about, firstly i can tell you right now he didnot gain 6,5kgs of muscle becuz it simply is impossible for him. Now if you tell me he lost weight and 'looked' more muscular that i'll accept. naturals simply dont have enough hormones to generate that kind of muscle building effect. its all fairytales, you know that.
like i said, familiarise yourself with slin and it will become obvious

its not impossible bro,this oke was doing weekly refeeds of 3400g of carbs in a space of 24 hours... that leptin level super compensation,it is possible if u prime your body to do so...he had also primed his body weekly to work in those amount of carbs... we can beg to differ on the refeed stratergies etc but these okes have trained nutritional coaches following them and monitoring them.. but i would like to pick your brain about slin but not on here...

no problemo

drop me a mail on EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED i will show u the link to that who story,it was 20pounds of fat and 10pounds of muscle gained...got the kgs/lbs wrong..

Please note that I know of 3 bodybuilders that are now diabetics because of slin... and I know of 1 with an even weirder disaorder, he now suffers from hyperglycemia but in the worst can you can imagine his pancreas is now secreting so much insulin that if he doesn't continue to eat he will slip into a diabetic comma. Don't play with slin... BBG please don't talk to me about slin as I have 2 brothers who are both diabetics, and I can tell you 1 thing it BREAKS OUR FAMILY to see them when they shaking on the bed, eyes rolling back and the brain damage they are experiencing because of this close encounter into the comma and them waking up in hospital because even after a glucose injection we couldn't get them out of it... I can comfortably say I know more about diabetes than MANY doctors do. Don't fuck around with slin....................... Any tom dick or harry can say oh lets inject 2-5iu who gives a shit, unless you a cronic diabetic you don't have a clue what it is like to live that type of life.

i am not a diabetic
i am a bodybuilder who has used slin and roids effectively and safely in order to grow muscle
i am not responsible for other people's usage of slin
and i am not talking about details of how to use it (according to my experience), here

btw you should post the slin protocol of those guys who used slin so that we can all see why it is that they turned diabetic.

there is no right or wrong way of using it... you use it if you not a diabetic you can become one... simple as that... yes some don't but some do, if you want to be one of those that do, by all means do it... you just fucking up your life...

if you want a bucket full of reasons why not to do slin, by all means, just because you have been 'lucky' that means jack shit.. you take 1iu of a short term and still turn diabetic... I don't care what slin you use, I don't even care if you use a slow acting long term, you are going to cry, big tears when you realize for the rest of your life you have to take slin, monitor yourself, and can't find a perfect balance and you start to damage your eyes, and fuck up circulation in your body due to the blood being thick from running high...

just like taking test stops your body creating its own, so can insulin do the same...

oh wait you going to tell me a different story, you can repair the pancreas lets just use stem cells, bullshit...

please don't even put this idea in peoples heads on this forum, we are here to give information not bring people to their death... you are unfair to people on the road incase you vision starts to go and you cant start to focus... the bottom line is slin is one thing I do not agree with in bodybuilding, that is not bodybuilding its bodydestroying...

Anyway I won't upset myself any further by this conversation, do what you want, you are just very ignorant, just because I can break into a bank 10 times without being busted doesn't mean on the 11th time i'm not going to jail for the rest of my life... the same rule applies here..

Before the refeed I weighed 180. The night after my refeed (pic on the left) I weight 202. 3 days later (other pic), I weighed slightly more than pre-refeed (182), but was a lot fuller and drier than I was pre-refeed at 180.

PS, YES, I am flexing in both pics, lol.

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ok thats after 4000g of carbs in a 24 hour period,now u can see that over compensation and driving your own natural insulin levels that high can repair muscle tissue and aid in putting on 10lbs in a 20 week period... (File Removed)

Thats awsome and whats more awsome is you finding a way to work with your body not destroy it..

PS: you got very nicely shaped legs...

its not me pump,thats the guy who did that massive fat loss and muscle gain..

oh

what i am trying to say is that with that type of super compensation for carbs etc and priming the body,why is it not possible to put on that much muscle whilst loosing fat???he put down 4000carbs in 24 hours..look at the difference in the shape of him...24hours...

WOW nice transformation... dont wanna boast or anything but he has the exact same shaped abs as i do they look identical...well of corse when i had abs LOL

there is no right or wrong way of using slin?....


anyways, correct usage of slin will dramatically increase your bodybuilding experiences and thats a fact

read how i put the word 'correct' in front of the sentence


for the pictures , as far as I'm concerned that dude is not a natural, there's even puffy nipples in these shots
not disputing the fact that keto diets are good though.

SNOK1986 wrote:

WOW nice transformation... dont wanna boast or anything but he has the exact same shaped abs as i do they look identical...well of corse when i had abs LOL

its not really a transformation,thats after 24hours of primed refeeding.

1 day bro.. this is what he consumed

MEAL 1
chocolate brownie with walnuts and chocolate frosting
bowl scalloped potatoes with cheese
Lean Cuisine BBQ chicken pizza
onion bagel with cream cheese
bowl Cap'n Crunch PB cereal with chocolate milk and vanilla pudding
4 pieces sushi
PB&J sandwich
cheesecake swirled brownie
3 vanilla chocolate chip pudding cookies
1 cup chocolate ice cream
Belgian waffle with chocolate PB, syrup, butter, powdered sugar
bowl rice crispies with banana pudding and powdered sugar

MEAL 2
1/4 bag sour cream cheddar cheese Ruffles chips
2 hot dogs on bun with cheese, ketchup, mustard, relish
bowl Cinnamon Toast Crunch cereal
2 pieces sushi
chocolate brownie with walnuts and chocolate frosting topped with chocolate PB
2 cheesecake swirled brownies
3 vanilla chocolate chip pudding cookies
1 cup chocolate ice cream

MEAL 3
1/2 bagel with cream cheese
chocolate brownie with walnuts and chocolate frosting
1 cheesecake swirled brownie
2 vanilla chocolate chip pudding cookies
belgian waffle with cinnamon, powdered sugar, butter, syrup
bowl Cap'n Crunch PB cereal with chocolate milk
Lean Cuisine roasted garlic and chicken pizza
1 pint chocolate ice cream

MEAL 4
1/2 bagel with cream cheese
chocolate brownie with walnuts and chocolate frosting
1 cheesecake swirled brownie
3 vanilla chocolate chip pudding cookies
1/4 bag sour cream cheddar cheese Ruffles chips
PB&J sandwich
bowl Cinnamon Toast Crunch cereal with banana pudding
belgian waffle with powdered sugar, butter, syrup

MEAL 5
bowl scalloped potatoes with cheese
Lean Cuisine roasted garlic and chicken pizza
1/2 bagel with cream cheese
bowl Cap'n Crunch PB cereal with chocolate milk
Belgian waffle with chocolate PB, syrup, butter
chocolate brownie with walnuts and chocolate frosting
1 cheesecake swirled brownie
3 vanilla chocolate chip pudding cookies

MEAL 6
bowl scalloped potatoes with cheese
4 pieces sushi
chocolate brownie with walnuts and chocolate frosting
2 cheesecake swirled brownies
bowl Cinnamon Streusel Frosted Mini Wheats
1/2 bag sour cream cheddar cheese Ruffles chips

MEAL 7
1/2 bagel with cream cheese
2 PB&J sandwiches
Belgian waffle with chocolate PB, syrup, butter
4 pieces sushi
bowl Cinnamon Streusel Frosted Mini Wheats
bowl banana pudding
bun with raisins and honey
bowl Rice Crispies with chocolate milk

BBG wrote:

there is no right or wrong way of using slin?....


anyways, correct usage of slin will dramatically increase your bodybuilding experiences and thats a fact

read how i put the word 'correct' in front of the sentence


for the pictures , as far as I'm concerned that dude is not a natural, there's even puffy nipples in these shots
not disputing the fact that keto diets are good though.

look we can debate the nautral thing for years,its all internet based so he can "lie" lol... but as for puffy nipples,i know a guy who is a vegetarian prepping for a show and he has the worst gyno ever and he is only 18 and hasnt touched a thing...all the soy based products...

I wud be violently ill... but WOW!!!!!

what kind of show is he doing?

ones with poles on tables if he doesnt sort out the moobs... kzn novice...

karma

puffy nipples has nothing to do with gear, but at that 18 could be from puberty. Also the guys seems to have lost some serious BF between photos, and if you have a big of extra weight so will your nipples they don't look puffy in the bottom picture.

BBG wrote:

karma

bud do u see from the list of food above that it is possible to put on that much and loose that much fat on keto diet? its all about priming your body...not everyone can do this but shit its not gonna hurt to try if u know what u are doing,and thats without anything other than natural insulin...

i did keto natural, with roids and with roids and slin
better results respectively

i dont care about this guy and whatever he's been doing or not doing
he shouldnt represent a bodybuilding example anyways

i do agree that keto is a good way of dieting
and i simply add that roids and slin can work inside of that as well

that is my truth