Tren + Sus + moobs..

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26 May 2008 09:44 #3725 by Spark
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Alright so I'm 3 1/2 weeks into my cycle of 200mg Tren p/w and 250mg Sustanon p/w with the nice addition of 4IU HGH p/d. I have been training for about 7 years and have taken gear from the start, although not a lot, maybe 5 courses. This year I have decided to get seriously back into it, have changed my training times so I do not miss a day, and also including HGH and Tren.

Now I woke up 2 days ago with itchy nipples and they were also a little swollen but could not feel any hard lumps. I never invested in any anti- estrogen drugs as I thought at such low dosages there should not be a problem of gyno. Right now my nipples have stopped itching but they still look a little swollen. Now I have read through a lot of posts but I am still a little undecided as to the course of action I should take.

On the other cycles I have done (mainly Sus + Deca or Depotrone)I have gotten itchy nipples before and just ignored it, not taking any anti estrogen drugs. Maybe I am just being paranoid now but after looking at pictures and reading up about surgery to remove gyno could you blame me?

I am undecided if this is due to estrogen from the Sus or progesterone from the Tren. After reading one of Doctaris posts he mentions that Tren should not aromatize easily at low dosages and I would consider 200mg p/w pretty low. One thing is for sure I can feel my estrogen levels are high as I am feeling quite moody and depressed, I even cried watching a sad part in a movie last night, LOL.

So what do you guys suggest, should I just keep an eve on it to make sure it doesn't get any worse, or start some kind of treatment. If I should start treatment then what should I use? I know Kessar is out of the question when using Tren and Dostinex is very expensive, Cabaser is hard to get...... And is it just estrogen causing it or is progesterone the culprit? To be honest I always try and keep my dosages low and stay away from the anti estrogen drugs because I have taken Kessar before when on a high dosage course and my gains were terrible but the sides were high.

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26 May 2008 11:02 #3728 by Netro
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If you can afford the GH then A-Dex (Arimidex) is your best option for an anti-e or clomid (the cheaper option), kessar will enhance the progesterone sides of the tren. Start the A-dex at 1mg p/d till the gyno is gone, you can then use 0.5mg p/d if it rears it's ugly head again.

If you do not use anti-e's, what does your PCT look like?

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26 May 2008 12:29 #3737 by Spark
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Thanks for the advice Netro.

To be honest I have stopped using PCT. I used Pregnyl and Clomid or Kessar as PCT on my first two courses but no anti-e's during. I know this flies in the face of what should be but I have found no difference in strength & weight & size whether I use PCT or not. Maybe it is due to the fact that I use low dosages of gear and do not slacken my training when off the course.

However I have not made these kinds of gains since my first course. Picked up 10kg in 3 1/2 weeks and still have 6 1/2 weeks to go. So I think I am going to revise my course and add PCT. What would your recommendations be ? Lets say I have the Arimidex would I just carry on using that and add some Clomid?

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