Proviron, Nolvadex and first signs of gyno

I'm three-four weeks into my first cycle, which includes

Stanazol Tabs 100 (10mg)tabs, 3 tabs a day
Proviron 50 (25mg) one tab per day.
Andropen 275 (10ml) once a week

Last week my nipples started to get sensitive to the touch. Nothing looks different but they're definitely more sensitive to the touch. So on Friday last week I got hold of some Nolvadex and took 40 mg for first three days and am now on 20mg once per day. I've also subsequently up'ed my Proviron to 50mg per day, and didn't take my andropen on monday but am aiming to take it tomorrow (so 11 days after last one shot to see if the space in between shots helps)

My nipples are still sensitive to the touch and I'm sure I'm getting a small lump/ on my chest muscle if I grab a chunk of breast fat. However from the outside they my chest and nipples look completely normal. My question is, are my symptoms gyno (especially on the dose of drugs I'm on, which are quite low) and (b) why are my nipples still sensitive - shouldn't the proviron and Nolvadex have kicked in already?

Would appreciate your feedback.

what is andropen,get hold of a-dex dude.. dont bother with the kessar for gyno.

DJ wrote:

what is andropen,get hold of a-dex dude.. dont bother with the kessar for gyno.

Andropen 275 is a five-ester blend of testosterone produced by British Dragon

I don't think you need to worry bro

275mg a week of gear is minimal, and the fact that the Nolva and Proviron aren't helping your "sensitive nipples" makes me think its maybe just in your mind

But i would keep an eye on it, to be on the safe side, or get your doc to check it out....

BB_guy wrote:

I don't think you need to worry bro

275mg a week of gear is minimal, and the fact that the Nolva and Proviron aren't helping your "sensitive nipples" makes me think its maybe just in your mind

But i would keep an eye on it, to be on the safe side, or get your doc to check it out....

Yeah, that's what I was told too but it sure is sensitive. If I went to my doc for a proper opinion, she'd probably s^%t on me for what I'm on. Thats what I think anyway...

Better to not take the chance and go see your Doc if you're concerned. The only way to treat Gyno would be surgery

Either get some Adex or Letro like DJ said, if you plan to continue your cycle...

How long do you plan to run the Andropen and also the Winny ?

How many ml's Andropen are you injecting per week? Is it only 1ml?

I also find it hard to believe that you're getting gyno on this if you're only on 275ml of test per week.

Do as DJ says with the adex, but I just can't see it.

Maybe it is the return of the stoneys

Yohimbe wrote:

How many ml's Andropen are you injecting per week? Is it only 1ml?

I also find it hard to believe that you're getting gyno on this if you're only on 275ml of test per week.

Do as DJ says with the adex, but I just can't see it.

I am taking 1.5ml a week. I guess I just dont understand then why the nipples are sensitive.

BB_guy wrote:

Better to not take the chance and go see your Doc if you're concerned. The only way to treat Gyno would be surgery

Either get some Adex or Letro like DJ said, if you plan to continue your cycle...

How long do you plan to run the Andropen and also the Winny ?

I am doing them all for six weeks, so three more shots left of Andropen. My Winstrol has about 1.5 weeks left.

Roozer wrote:

Maybe it is the return of the stoneys

I never suffered from stoneys as a kid, so can't be.

Just a thought, but do you think I should I just stick to Nolva, Proviron and Winstrol for now until I see a doc, and rather drop the andropen (test)?

Maybe if you stop playing with your tits they won't be so sensitive. I doubt you have got gyno. When gyno starts it is painful my friend. The lump you describe must be directly under your nipple, small round thingy. Are your nipples puffy or were they puffy from the start? If so (from the start) then it's the same fat you still have, no new gyno.

What were your gains on this cycle thus far?

milktuds wrote:

Maybe if you stop playing with your tits they won't be so sensitive. I doubt you have got gyno. When gyno starts it is painful my friend. The lump you describe must be directly under your nipple, small round thingy. Are your nipples puffy or were they puffy from the start? If so (from the start) then it's the same fat you still have, no new gyno.

What were your gains on this cycle thus far?

So I went to the doc and althought she said my pecs feel slightly more
puffy/fuller than normal and that the nipple senstitivity is due to more hormones floating around, which she said will subside when I come off the drugs, she cleared me of gyno.

I've gained 5kgs in 4.5 weeks.

akag wrote:

If I went to my doc for a proper opinion, she'd probably s^%t on me for what I'm on. Thats what I think anyway...

Well looks like your worries were for naught?
If she is willing to ask her to work with you on future cycles to get blood work done and monitor kidney and liver function.

If she's youngish and relatively good looking ask if she' like to help you out with the increased sex drive you suffer with on cycle?

So, I got my blood work back and my results were fine except very high test levels and mild hepatitis. She said they should sort themselves out
once I stop, which I've decided to do ASAP to prevent further liver
damage.

My question is: how soon can I stop the nolvadex and
proviron combo - this is the only thing I'm on at the moment. My last shot of andropen was a week ago and I also ended my winstrol tabs same day. I don't want
to stop too soon as I've heard of nolvadex's rebound effect.

Thoughts?

akag wrote:

....mild hepatitis...

Is that what he calls slight rise in liver enzyme values?

You get "mild hepatitis" when you go out boozing as well.