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This thread is very worrying and your answers haven't been addressed in a manner that you have understood>
Listen please post a week by week split of your cycle, taking into account your compounds i will put a simple example below and you say how far off you are otherwise you will be last in translation and mess yourself up.
Cycle:
-Sust, week 1-14, 2ml per week.
-Deca, week 1-12, 2ml per week.
-Letro, week 1-16, 0.25mg ed & tapering off in week 15&16.
-Proviron, week 14-16, 25mg ed.
PCT:
-HCG, 500IU, 3x per week, week 14-16
-Clomid, 100mg for 5 days (beginning week 17) & 50mg for 5 days after that.
-Kessar, 20mg ed, week 18-21.
Again this is a very rough outline and you can add clen ect and you length might be different and whatever but if it is not along these lines and you dont have clomid, kessar and hcg in your drawer then you are off.
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I feel that bunny should stay very far away from steroids as even the essential fundamental knowledge is lacking.
Bunny, please look at doing a test only cycle for now with a PCT and then only widen your horizons to include more "exotic" drugs.
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HEY! :cry me too! haha...Thanks Michael, Vega5 and Bunny....much appreciated.. :nana2
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Cycle
-Sust, week 1-12, 2ml per week.
-Anapolins 1 - 6 50mg
-Deca, week 7-12, 2ml per week.
Not yet letro or proviron
Pct :
Only start asking questions today.
I'll probably use letrozole - but not sure about the dosage as im only at week 7
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Bunny:
PCT:
-HCG, 500IU, 3x per week, week 14-16
-Clomid, 100mg for 5 days (beginning week 17) & 50mg for 5 days after that.
-Kessar, 20mg ed, week 18-21.
Again this is a very rough outline and you can add clen ect and you length might be different and whatever but if it is not along these lines and you dont have clomid, kessar and hcg in your drawer then you are off.
Peace
clomid kessar and hcg? full product name?
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You see this is where you have it wrong you infact need a PCT for letro>> otherwise you get estrogen rebound which can infact be far worse than estrogen sides experienced on cycle.
I side with Vega drop the deca and continue on the test for the 14 weeks as i put and follow something along the lines of the PCT i put up> YOU NEED HCG, CLOMID & KESSAR!!!
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Clomid: Clomiphene Citrate
Kessar: Tamoxifen
HCG: Human chorionic gonadotropin
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thats abit harsh. thats y im here. im reading, earning and asking/ alot of people, educated/succesfull or not has there opinions. I just dont want to waste time or money. I believe its best to do it right from the beginning.
i appreciate all the pointers, and im taking notes
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methandienone=clomid ? isnt this used at the beginning of a cycle?
Ha ha no bru methandienone does not = Clomid it = D-bol;)
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Will get it next week and use as directed.
Thanks Again
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its all new to me. the sooner i understand and get to use knoe the combinations aswell as what to use when, then ill be sorted.
I do realise it takes time, thus again thats y i here.
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ok
ok ok
previous post doesn't deserve a reply i know soz!!!!!
Now it starts coming together.
Thanks again Moose
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eish vega
thats abit harsh. thats y im here. im reading, earning and asking/ alot of people, educated/succesfull or not has there opinions. I just dont want to waste time or money. I believe its best to do it right from the beginning.
i appreciate all the pointers, and im taking notes
Bud fuck money and time IT IS YOUR HEALTH YOU NEED TO WORRY ABOUT.
Drop deca use the sust, Get you clomid 10 tabs 50mg. get kessar 30 tabs 20 mg. and get HCG go and read what names trade as hcg. It is neccesary.
Do you want to get kids? Do you want low test levels? Do you want to go on TRT treatment? i Guess no. The sides to steroids are real its no myth.
Roids are serious stuff. It needs education. And dedication. Dont abuse bud, i can promise you your body is gonna kak you out after this if you dont follow our advise :noway
Read and ask we will help you
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Bunny wrote:
methandienone=clomid ? isnt this used at the beginning of a cycle?
Ha ha no bru methandienone does not = Clomid it = D-bol;)
Peace
clomid... dbol... same thing...
[IN CASE SOMEONE DOESNT KNOW IM JUST JOKING!!!] :laugh:
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I'm just concerned that you're plunging into something that you're not ready for! Have you already used the Anapolins?eish vega
thats abit harsh. thats y im here. im reading, earning and asking/ alot of people, educated/succesfull or not has there opinions. I just dont want to waste time or money. I believe its best to do it right from the beginning.
i appreciate all the pointers, and im taking notes
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Cycle
-Sust, week 1-12, 2ml per week.
-Anapolins 1 - 6 50mg
-Deca, week 7-12, 2ml per week.
Not yet letro or proviron
Pct :
Only start asking questions today.
I'll probably use letrozole - but not sure about the dosage as im only at week 7
What is the Deca for BTW? Couldve save quite a bit by leaving it out completely since it wont do anything in 5 weeks anyway. But you knew that since you studied all the AAS youre taking right?
You Scanned through Anthony Roberts write up but do you understand it and do you know what wont work anymore if you dont follow the correct PCT for YOU?
I'll leave it at that - too much to say, too little space.
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Bunny wrote:
I'm just concerned that you're plunging into something that you're not ready for! Have you already used the Anapolins?eish vega
thats abit harsh. thats y im here. im reading, earning and asking/ alot of people, educated/succesfull or not has there opinions. I just dont want to waste time or money. I believe its best to do it right from the beginning.
i appreciate all the pointers, and im taking notes
i also wanna know if u have used the a-bombs?
also was this ur first cycle?
and if u did take the a-bombs, did u use liver support?
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yes to the trade name for the mentioned pct. i search thus d-bol, tamoxifen and so forth
yes to anaps and yes to liver treatment.
im will finnish what im on until 16 weeks with sust and deca thus increasing the deca with 4 weeks. i understand its not a perfect cycle but will do it right with the next 1.
I must admit with the sust and anaps i gained 3 kg (keep in mind i slimmed down on fat) and toned alot.
I also understand that oil is not candy. Training for 2 years and gaining almost shit is frustrating, hence the oil.
again thanks and alternatives,combos and sugestions appreciated. i hate drugs and the oil is my last resort.
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You're going to need a serious PCT after this one so listen up. Follow doctari's PCT (in PCT section) to the T and go start using HCG now already at 250IU every two to three days while on cycle. Your liver will be fairly roasted after the a-bombs so go get a script from your doc for Legalon two a day and start using it ASAP until at least two months after PCT. Also get some SAMe depending on your pocket you can choose to start using it now or as part of you PCT and preferably run it two months past your PCT.Thanks guys.
yes to the trade name for the mentioned pct. i search thus d-bol, tamoxifen and so forth
yes to anaps and yes to liver treatment.
im will finnish what im on until 16 weeks with sust and deca thus increasing the deca with 4 weeks. i understand its not a perfect cycle but will do it right with the next 1.
I must admit with the sust and anaps i gained 3 kg (keep in mind i slimmed down on fat) and toned alot.
I also understand that oil is not candy. Training for 2 years and gaining almost shit is frustrating, hence the oil.
again thanks and alternatives,combos and sugestions appreciated. i hate drugs and the oil is my last resort.
If you've decided to use Letrozole while on cycle then start using 2-4g Vit C a day and try getting a good multi Vit (Animal Pak or Optimen) and also get some form of joint protection.
Please make sure that your Test dosage is at least 1/3 more than that of the Deca.
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clomid= danabols?
i think i just wet myself
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