1st Cutting Cycle (Clenbuterol) - Advise

Hi

I started my first ever cycle today. Started using Clen Tablets - 40mcg.
I need to know whether I am following the right process for maximum effectiveness.

5-15am - Take 2 tabs BIOGEN PHEDERINE EXTREME

5-20am - (Pre-Workout) Small/half portion of either Special K Keloggs or 1 weetbix or 1/2 oats with a small scoop whey protein.

6-00am - 7-30am - Exercise

7-35am - (Post-Workout) 1 40mcg CLEN Tab wit 40grams Whey.

I take another serving of BIOGEN PHEDERINE EXTREME approx 1pm(30min before lunch).
I have never taken this stuff before today. Felt a bit hot in the morning.

My understanding is 2 weeks ON -2 Weeks OFF.
Week 1 - I will stick to just 1 CLEN 40mcg morning.
Week 2 - I will take 2 CLEN 40mcg - 1 after training and 1 about 3pm.
Week 3 - OFF
Week 4 - OFF
week 5 - Maintain/Stick to 2 CLEN per day. (1 post workout and 1 midday)
CONTINUE.

Guys - Please tell me if this will work and whether it is safe to take both Biogen fat burner and CLEN together.

Also is there anything else I must take - I am taking my OPTImen Multivits, EFAs, CLA, and VIT C daily.

Thanks

I assume the product you're taking is BIOGEN Phenadrine Xtreme. It is a blend of coffee bean extract and other compounds such as caffeine so it will be safe to take it with clen as it will not target the same receptors.

Remember to use it 5 days on 2 days off. The times you are taking it are correct (30 min before meals.

Your clen dosages are a bit to low in my opinion. I would taper up quicker so you can be on your optimum dose for longer. I think 100mcg-120mcg would be a more effective optimum dose. If 120mcg is too much and the shakes are to hectic then reduce until you reach a comfortable level. Listen to your body. I would do something like this:
Day1: 40mcg
Day2: 40mcg
day3: 80mcg
day4: 80mcg
day5: 100mcg
day6-10: 100mcg
day11-12: 80mcg
day13-14: 40mcg
week 3-4: off
week: 5-6: same as week1-2

As far as the time to take clen, I usually take 2 (40mcg) tabs in the morning and 2 at lunch. Nothing after 6pm & make sure you drink lots of water.

Ja, i think 40mcg a day is very low....
I would take something like lava aswell that contains ephadrine...
The oral LP clen, how many 100mcg doses can you get from the 15ml?

Eph.. stimulates the release of noradrenaline which has a direct impact on beta-2 receptors. Clenbuterol targets the same beta-2 receptors so taking the two together is going to be counter productive - they are both going fight for the same receptor sites. One would need to combine something like ketotifen to up-regulalate receptors if the Eph/clen are to be used together. The combination of eph and clen in Lava must be dosed in such a way as to target the ideal number of receptors without causing significant downregulation. I wouldn't take Lava as well as additional clen as this will effect this delicate balance.

The LP Clen is 250mcg/ml so you would get 3750mcg in 15ml. This means 37.5 x 100mcg doses.

Thanks for the advise Stuart. Will up dosage on CLEN.

The two weeks that I am OFF CLEN - I am thinking of taking EPH Tabs along with the Biogen Phenadrine Extreme.

Is it advisable?

Read what Stuart said in last post, they target the same receptor sites so using eph while on your 2 week break would be impractical due to recepor downgrade, hence using the eph will prevent the receptors from recoverig making the following 2 weeks of clen a waste of time. Find another product that doesn't contain caffeine or eph

i dont understand why people taper down from clen,after 10 days the receptors are starting to burn out and you lower the dosage? that makes it really ineffective, if you have been taking 80mcgs for 10 day,for 4 days you should take 120mcgs to get the same effect as 80 mcgs cos of the receptor down grade

DJ wrote: i dont understand why people taper down from clen,after 10 days the receptors are starting to burn out and you lower the dosage? that makes it really ineffective, if you have been taking 80mcgs for 10 day,for 4 days you should take 120mcgs to get the same effect as 80 mcgs cos of the receptor down grade

That makes sense. So will do that during the last 4 days on Clen.

Thanks.