Winter Cycle FINISHED. Equi 350 - Anavar - Winny

So I am finished my cycle.

My stats:

26 Male
BF 12%
85kg
Training 3 years

I liked this cycle , BUT. I should of injected at least 400mg Equi.
I did not feel much strength from the Equi at all. Thw Winnies worked like a bomb .

As for the Nomad Labs Anavar. I ran at 30mg ED. It did nothing. Jack.. Was a waste of money in my eyes.. Nomad Labs has gone down hill. Thier anavar seems to little more than orange flavoured Super C's.


I will be trying this cycle again in the near future. With Equi at 700mg and some proper legit Anavar.. No Nomad labs for me again..

Good call, do you have some before stats to do a comparison?

Yeah when I started I was 83kg.. During the cycle I went down to around 81kg and then back up to 85.

Which I hope are mainly gains.... I not going to bother with the PCT seen the Anavar was a load of junk and the Equi had min effect on me... I will save it for the next cycle.

I would still do a PCT as your natural hormones have still been affected and you still need to restore balance. PCT should be done even if you don't gain a kg and gains should not determine if PCT's are done or not. Your time off will be allot longer without PCT as it is the PCT that kick starts your natural hormone production again, consider it.

will do. Shot Netro

acidkidsa wrote:

So I am finished my cycle.

I liked this cycle , BUT. I should of injected at least 400mg Equi.

I will be trying this cycle again in the near future. With Equi at 700mg and some proper legit Anavar.. No Nomad labs for me again..

It's stated everywhere that more is generally better, within limits. Like 400mg - 600mg test / week.

So why does "everyone" recommend starting at lower doses for the first cycle.
With Test, if 300mg is good, why not gradually increase the dose to 600mg, providing that it's safe? The gains will be better.

Is it to see how the individual responds / reacts the drug and if no major sides are experienced, up the dose?

Personally, I think starting conservatively is good, but continue to up the dose during the cycle to the upper limits in order to maximise the gains from the cycle.

If I'm going to live like a monk, train like I'm possessed and eat like horse, I want the biggest bang for my buck. And doing it right costs plenty with food and supps.

Or am I getting a little radical / irresponsible??

Not at all, but if you planning on doing gear for a long time and you start at 500mg p/w test, where will you be in 5 yrs? 2 grams maybe more? IMO opinion, people generally make unbelievable gains with their first cycle at low doses, why push the envelope?

My first course was 1 amp depotrone and 1 ml winny p/w and gained 10 kgs, do you think I will gain as much if I had to take the same cycle? I can do a gram to gram and 1/2 of test p/w, which is still seen as average, but if I started at that I would be doing much more now to get the results.

You body gets used to the compounds as you go and need more to get results or the compounds are under dosed

If you are comfortable with pushing doses and identifying sides then by all means see what you can squeeze out of course, but there is logic there, we all want value for money IMO

Honestly, I think you should expect to make the same gains on the same cycle, otherwise there is a serious and permanent Down Regulation of AR receptor that is not often discussed.

Or as you reach your genetic potential, the gains reduce and are harder to come by i.e. 10kgs on a stick man with a std 6 body (65kgs) is easy and looks impressive, but to add an additional 10kg to a 100kg or 120kg man is another matter. At 100kgs, said man is closer to his absolute limit or potential.

Logic does dictate that, but nature says differently. You can run the same cycle over and over and you will make gains, but if you document the gains you will see they decline steadily on the same course at the same dose.

In the world of AAS you often do no need mass doses of AAS to achieve results you looking for, guys go on massive cycles cause they use the typical more = more logic and do not understand synergies in compounds and how to exploit them.

"If I can gain 8 kgs on 500mg test p/w, then logic says I can gain 16 kgs on 1 gram p/w" You can only absorb and utilize so much compound, the rest will just cause problems.

A perfect example is the member with the gyno issue, he did a sus cycle of 500mg p/w and no issues. Doing a test cycle of 600 mg p/w and seems to have gyno issues, only 100mg difference and quite small in relative terms, but the amount of test you get out of sus and how it is delivered is different to that of a single, more constant release of an enanthate ester and there in might lie the problem as you will get more test out of a single ester than a blend.

Good points, experience vs. Exuberance!

Oupiel wrote:

acidkidsa wrote:

So I am finished my cycle.

I liked this cycle , BUT. I should of injected at least 400mg Equi.

I will be trying this cycle again in the near future. With Equi at 700mg and some proper legit Anavar.. No Nomad labs for me again..

It's stated everywhere that more is generally better, within limits. Like 400mg - 600mg test / week.

So why does "everyone" recommend starting at lower doses for the first cycle.
With Test, if 300mg is good, why not gradually increase the dose to 600mg, providing that it's safe? The gains will be better.

Is it to see how the individual responds / reacts the drug and if no major sides are experienced, up the dose?

Personally, I think starting conservatively is good, but continue to up the dose during the cycle to the upper limits in order to maximise the gains from the cycle.

If I'm going to live like a monk, train like I'm possessed and eat like horse, I want the biggest bang for my buck. And doing it right costs plenty with food and supps.

Or am I getting a little radical / irresponsible??

This is my second cycle with PGW Equi. The first time I took it by itself at 350mg.. I was happy with my strength and gains at the time.

The second time I did this cycle. I could not afford to run the equi at 700mg at the time. I thought I would feel the same strength gains as the last cycle. I was wrong. I should delayed the cycle and bought another 10mg of Equi 350mg.

The equi only worked slightly this time. And the Anavar did jack shit.

So the only mistake I did with this cycle was the equi was way to low for my second cycle of Equi. (learnt the kak way)

As for the Anavar . I wont be buying Nomad again.

Next cycle will be the same with the Equi at 700mg and some proper Anavar at 30 - 40mg ED and the winni.

I have read some sites that recommend Equi at only 200 or 300mg EW. I dont think that is accurate at all. First time users using anything less than 400mg are waisting their time in my opinion.
(even though work differently from person to person.)


Hopefully my this stuff of of a cycle will open some other users eyes in the future.. (stuff ups been the low Equi dosage and the Quality of Nomda labs "Anavar")

hey guys - interesting cycle. ive never done anything without TEST, but i like what i read here.

question: could one just do PCT with some nolva or clomid on a cycle like this?