back into gym after 3 months off..cycle tym

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29 Aug 2008 23:21 #5659 by tiburon
i was 94kgs and at about 10%body fat after a 8week cycle of test enanthate(600mg/week) test prop(200mg/week) 300mg tren enanth a week for all 8weeks and ended the last month by adding whinny (50mg oral a day) and 40mg anavar a day. i was solid hard and pretty quality.

long story for while gym and supplements went out the window for 3 months ryt after my pct....

im weighing about 83kgs now.. im considering a cycle to kick me off and get my strength and size back...preferrably a 10 or 12 week cycle..

im a huge fan of pgw and was thinking of:
front loading 20days of 50mg dbol
hitting 900mg test enanthate a week for the entire cycle
700mg equi a week / or deca im not sure prefer equi as more harder gains and dont want deca dick(even tho test is higher have heard of it happening)
also want to run heat the thermogenic the entire cycle to keep my fat down and shred me a bit as i know i am on the plus bodyfat now..especially where my abs were!
the only thing i was thinking is maybe last 2weeks of cycle instead of test enanth i run test prop as then my pct would be far easier being a shorter ester.

on the pct side i want to keep heat going as it stops cortisol production
and kessar/nolvadex 40mg a day for 15 days
and ovidrel 250iu

i wanna drop some fat and get hard and big again...muscle memory and i are good friends as i hav had injuries in the past but wen i came back i came back and picked up weight naturally immediately!

any advice on my cycle?

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30 Aug 2008 09:54 #5661 by Empire
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as u have probably read that there might be a problem with taking kessar with deca and tren(been discussed in other strings) so i suggest that u look at another form of anti estrogen such as a-dex just to be safe from possible gyno problems..i am not sure if u will have the same problem going with equi so u might be in luck with that there.I would suggest doubling your ovidrel and start running it whilst u are still on cycle,maybe 250iu's over the last 3 weeks and then carry on with the other 250iu's as u would normal pct(hoping someone else can give u more advice here as to where and when u should run ovidrel),might i suggest adding clomid into your pct.its cheap and it can help a whole lot i guess.rather cover all angles than only some....

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30 Aug 2008 10:03 #5662 by tiburon
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with finances i myt have to drop the thought of a substance like equi... and stick with the test,dbol and heat and pct but am working it all out..

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30 Aug 2008 13:43 #5663 by MxT
Dosgages are 2 high for someone that weighs 83kgs Yor first 3 weeks youl be runn almost 2grams of gear a week. Prob more in the line of 600mg Test plus 350 mg EQ with a 35gram D Bol frontload. And that is high by some standards especialy if you want to run a 10-12 week cycle.

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30 Aug 2008 14:12 #5664 by Netro
Agree with the Wolfman here, think you are trying to make up for the lost weight in 1 cycle. Does not work like that as holding onto those gains will be more difficult. Rather be conservative and gain the weight back over time than over one cycle.

Patience!!!!

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30 Aug 2008 15:24 #5665 by tiburon
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thanks for the input guys i know the gains wont come back in just one cycle but i will admit im not feeling the patience but i wil b patient!.ps weighed myself and im actually 86kgs...lol last scale i used was out! i was thinking the equi and heat would make sure my gains wud be as quality as possible and make most of it maintainable. i was also thinking of instead of front loading with dbol use it more as a "supplement" i kno ur all going to say im nuts here...but dbol has amazing protein synthesis properties increasing my protein absorbtion....so instead of only using for 2 weeks i use it for the first month taking 20mg a day for 25days? this way bloating wont be as predominant!

ok taking some advice i will drop my test to 600mg/week no this means i will hit a 10 week cycle due to pgw testan being 300mg/ml and coming in 10ml vials so get 2 of those to make it rounded.
ok i will use the dbol over 25days at 20mg/day
use heat the entire course
and now comes the contraversy(if thats how u spell it lol...) use 350mg equi/week but if im only hitting a 10 week isnt it better to use deca? as equi should be 12 weeks!?

no as for the kessar + deca = gyno what does everyone advise on the pct side?

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