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11 Sep 2008 09:18 #6019 by Muscle-Up
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Hi

Going on my first cycle in about 2 years, have done one before that but seems a distant memory by now.

Stats 105kg, BF 15%, Age 25

Planned cycle is a follows:

Week 1-10: TestE (PGW) 600mg per week
Week 1-10: Nandro-Prop (PGW) 300mg per week
Week 1-3: Dianabol 50mg/day

For PCT I will use Clomid and HCG.


Just have a few questions:

1. The plan is to shoot the Test and Nandro-Prop together twice a week. I'm not sure about the Nandro-Prop half life, will 2 shots a week be ok or must it be EOD?
2. How should i structure my PCT?

Any other comments will be appreciated.

Thanks..

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11 Sep 2008 09:59 #6021 by Netro
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Hi Bud,
Why do you want to run a short ester nandrolone for 10 weeks? Reason me asking is this:
1st Phase
Test E 600mg p/w - week 1-6
Deca 300mg p/w - week 1-6
D-Bol 50mg p/d - week 1-3

2nd phase (Short esters and recovery qicker)
Test Prop 600mg p/w week 7-10
NPP 300mg p/w week 7-10

PCT: 3-5 days after last shot.
Clomid and HCG (HCG you can start maintenance from week 4 @ 300iu 2 x p/w)

Injection Protocol:
1st Phase 2 x p/w
2nd Phase EOD

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11 Sep 2008 10:08 #6022 by Muscle-Up
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Thanks for the reply Netro

My orginal intention was to run deca for 10 weeks, but due to supply contraints (damn olympics) i was adviced (by Admin) to rather go for NPP.

I have no experience with NPP and can't find much info on it either.

Can i run the Test as you decribed, switching last 4 weeks to prop and then run the NPP for 10 weeks?

Or is there something fundamentaly wrong in running the NPP for 10 weeks?

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11 Sep 2008 10:19 #6024 by Netro
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Nope, NPP is a very nice compound. I personally just like running the long esters in the front as 10 weeks of EOD shots becomes a little much. You will also use allot more NPP(150mg/ml) than Deca (250-300mg/ml) and the cost impact of that. A general rule I have for myself is this: Short cycles (6weeks or less) = short esters, Longer cycles (10 weeks or more) = longer esters. You do get other brands of Deca that are good quality and an acceptable 2nd choice, but the decision lies with you.

You can do like you suggested with the Test switch.

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11 Sep 2008 10:24 #6025 by Muscle-Up
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Thanks man

Just a final question then.
What is the half life of NPP?
Do i have to shoot it EOD or is twice a week ok?

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11 Sep 2008 10:31 #6026 by Netro
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Google this: Nandrolone Phenylpropionate (NPP)
EOD shots or you may get dips in your levels and affect gains.

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11 Sep 2008 10:35 #6027 by Muscle-Up
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Thanks Netro

Much appreciated.

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11 Sep 2008 10:42 #6028 by Netro
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No worries.
Read the profiles and familiarize yourself with the compound you will be administering.

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11 Sep 2008 12:02 #6030 by tiburon
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agree with netro on this advice! sounds like a fun course actually :)

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11 Sep 2008 19:26 #6040 by jackrabbit1
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Yes Netro - add this one to the sample cycles!!!!

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