Super-Anadrol (first course)

maverick919
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02 Mar 2011 17:00 #62342 by maverick919

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Hi Guys,

I'm new on this board, but have already found a lot of useful info here - thanks!

I'm looking to start my first cycle and was thinking of doing the following:
- Super-Anadrol (Muscle Xtreme) 20mg/day for 4 weeks
- PCT: Clomid 3 weeks (5days on, 5 days off, 5 days on)
- Natrodale Milk Thistle throughout Super-A course, plus a week before

I'm going for pure lean muscle and am nowhere near ready for needles, so want to stick with orals. (Oral also way easier to hide)

I have also heard of the D-bol & Winny course. Would this be a better option?

Age: 24
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 82.5kg

What do you guys think of the above for a beginner course?? Any opinions are welcome!

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00pump
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02 Mar 2011 18:21 #62351 by 00pump

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Well, you did ask what I think, orals are far more dangerous than injectables, so I think it's a terrible idea, also where did you get that PCT from? A women's fertility guide just because clomid is cycled for 5 days at the start of a women's menstrual cycle m, doesn't mean that's how guys must administer it. Leave gear till you have the balls to take injectables. That's the honest truth... and winny and dianabol? Shakes head.

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maverick919
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02 Mar 2011 18:52 #62356 by maverick919

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Thanks for your response 00pump. As I did ask for any opinions, I will accept that. However, I have seen this issue a lot where experienced users highly disagree with orals and the new comers run them anyway. So, to save us another of these discussions, let's assume that either my skin is impenetrable or I am only able to get my hands on an oral like Super-Anadrol.

Thanks for your comments on the Clomid - that is the exact type of info I'm looking for. So, if the 5 on, 5 off strategy is incorrect, what is the right way of doing it?

With that said, what type of gains can one expect from a course like the above? I realise this is a "How long is a piece of string" question but I'm interested to hear from someone who has used Super-A?

Also, why do you react as you do with regard to the Dianabol - Win idea? I have heard or read little more than hearing of a friend do it...

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bigboyf
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02 Mar 2011 20:19 #62360 by bigboyf

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look bro superanadrol is a toxic steroid with average gains therefore results<sides. Needles are alot less dangerous and if you do test as your first cycle you will see much better gains and you only need to shoot long acting test esters once a week (although twice gives more stable blood levels). Why not use the superanadrol as a kickstart to a decent test cycle you wont regret it. Gains on dbol are way superior to superanadrol. Also the winny and dbol is a bad idea as the two orals together will be a bitch on your liver

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Frikkie
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02 Mar 2011 20:21 #62361 by Frikkie

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if your skin is impenetrable, don't use gear.
the answers to all your other questions are all over the forum and have been answered many times. READ.

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00pump
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03 Mar 2011 05:22 #62364 by 00pump

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Dude, I can't tell you how non painful injections are, you don't feel it, you not sticking a needle into a vein and pulling blood. I pin my chick with B12 and CO every week, 3ml B12 and 1ml BCO. She doesn't feel it...

Superdrol to kick off the cycle is a good idea, but just get some test, once a week you jab yourself, you won't feel it...

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maverick919
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03 Mar 2011 06:21 #62367 by maverick919

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The pain, or lack thereof, of the injections is not what worries me at all. I have pinned myself with Vit B plenty times.

The fact is that I have already got a bottle of Super-A and figured I may as well try it. I have also received some sound advice on how to run my PCT, so thanks.

I was merely hoping for some helpful advice, on dosage, duration & PCT, given my situation.

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chemically enhanced
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03 Mar 2011 06:42 #62368 by chemically enhanced

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ok bro i have stupidly done a super anadrol only cycle before and also the one by muscle extreme,did 40 mgs a day for 5 weeks,strength went up abit,put on about 2 kilos,thing is it doesnt make you bloat up rather makes you harder and leaner and abit stronger,i actually lost a kilo or 2 in the first 2 weeks as it made me loose alot of water,after the coarse i kept the strength for a couple of weeks,its nothing much bro,i got better results from gorilla test and animal test coarse,in my opinion its bullshit..if i had a bottle on hand i would wait till i can get test and use it to kickstart i hear you about you have the bottle on hand but i mean dude honestly you can get a bottle of cyp or enanthate for less than what you pay for the super a

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mike80
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03 Mar 2011 06:45 #62369 by mike80

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The only advice that can be given is that its not wise to run an oral only cycle. Rather keep it, look at the sticky of how a first cycle should look like and go from there. The other piece of advice is that you should contact Dj and ask him to create a custom diet for you, he does charge but from what I have seen and heard, its well worth the price.

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00pump
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03 Mar 2011 06:47 #62370 by 00pump

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Ok well clearly, you not going to take a safer drug, but rather take something more toxic, so that is your choice. You will be back, just like everyone else, and realize you made a mistake and you should have listed, but you now know that if you want to achieve a result with the least possible side effects you would use a basic cycle designed in Cycle-Discussion..

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bigboyf
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03 Mar 2011 08:15 #62378 by bigboyf

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exactly test is cheap if you dont have the cash now its worth waiting a bit i mean you considered doing dbol and winstrol together which would cost you even more than a vial of test

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spike
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03 Mar 2011 09:01 #62384 by spike

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*simply shakes head and walks away muttering about oral steroids*

where is that cut and paste when i need it, karma to whoever finds that post of mine and pastes it here

Um, but im scared of needles...

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maverick919
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03 Mar 2011 09:03 #62385 by maverick919

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OK guys, the truth is that I wasn't ready to do juice yet, however, I was in a money spending mood and visited my local nutrition shop looking for a Test Booster of sorts. The guy told me about the Super-A, saying that it was a pro-hormone and didn't require any PCT etc. After buying it, I started to research it to find that it is more of a steroid than a PH. So I decided I would source a PCT and give it a try...

I am not after hulk-like gains and am just looking to gain a couple kgs (2-3) and get harder and leaner. I am also not keen on doing a 4 month long cycle.

So, what is the whole issue with Super-A? Is it just that it's hard on your liver and doesn't give you gains comparable to that of a nice Test cycle?

Please don't shut this down with comments like "grow some balls and just do it" or "shakes head".

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spike
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03 Mar 2011 09:14 #62386 by spike

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the pro's of prohormones dont outweigh the cons. They are hard on your liver and can cause side effects but have less potential gains than actual steroids.

And as with most oral steroids, the gains are generally quite short term.

In my books its not worth it.

Now im gonna say something many on this site may not agree with, but if i were determined to take an oral only cycle and was more concerned with hardening and not mass, i would run winstrol alone for 4 weeks. Not that i particularily endorse it, but if i had to thats what i'd do...

Um, but im scared of needles...

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STUARTF
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03 Mar 2011 09:24 #62387 by STUARTF

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I agree with you spike. I have done winstrol tabs alone many times in the past to keep hard. Even Anavar alone can yield good results and its less harsh on the liver than winstrol.

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00pump
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03 Mar 2011 10:01 #62388 by 00pump

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Im in agreement with Stuartf, Anavar or the best option Primobolan Acetate (which is not a 17 Alkyl steroid) you can get slow but stead gains on it without heavy side effects. If there is any oral only cycle, this would probably be the best.

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bigboyf
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03 Mar 2011 11:30 #62389 by bigboyf

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even oral turanibol

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00pump
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03 Mar 2011 11:44 #62392 by 00pump

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Well, that wouldn't be a good idea compared to Primo.. It is still toxic to the liver and gynecomastia is still a concern. Then he needs to make sure he has an AI, and it all starts getting very complex, also you hardly shutdown on Primo so you can get away with just a SERM for PCT.

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spike
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03 Mar 2011 12:15 #62395 by spike

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So there you go maverick, an oral only cycle is a possibility with either Primo or Anavar, but its gonna cost you more than a basic test cycle and likely the gains will be lesser in terms of mass

Um, but im scared of needles...

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tbone
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03 Mar 2011 13:48 #62400 by tbone

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Yo Mav, i sympathise with you. You know you shouldnt but you do it anways cus you can! I was in axactly the same boat as you with Super-A, been there done that...

Honestly it was a waste of time, i have seen much better gains lately by just eating "proprly," Upping the intensity and getting enough rest. Sticking around this forum and soaking up tried and tested info is absolutely golden man.

I will prob get flammed for saying this but you are an adult free to make your own choices, so if you really really really want to go ahead with the Super-A give it a bash and let us know how it goes?

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maverick919
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03 Mar 2011 14:07 #62406 by maverick919

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Thanks guys, I appreciate all of your input. In the future when I do decide to a proper course I will definitely go straight to a course such as in DJ's "First Cycle" thread.

For now however, I will go with the Super-A as I do have it already and am not going to use it for a kickstart...

So, with that said, could I get some advice on how best to protect my system from the harshness of the drug?
Liver protection - Is Milk Thistle sufficient? Will adding Essentiale have any impact?
PCT - I was suggested to take Clomid 5 days of 100mg/day then 5days of 50mg/day.

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03 Mar 2011 14:17 #62408 by 00pump

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That should work.

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CHAPEL
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03 Mar 2011 14:21 #62409 by CHAPEL

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maverick are you in CPT? Cos then i know where you got it...

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

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maverick919
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03 Mar 2011 14:54 #62411 by maverick919

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No, in DBN...

Thanks guys. Still very keen to hear any pointers from guys that have been on it before.

Oh, also what do I do on my off days? I gym 5 or 6 days a week...

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shaunrsa
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03 Mar 2011 16:40 #62418 by shaunrsa

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Geez, I can't believe with all the info readily available to everyone in this day and age, some guys (usually very young) still want to try pro-hormones. Often the sides can be even worse than Test, with a very small percentage of the results.
It's the old story of being hung for a lamb when you might as well be hung for a sheep.
IMO pro-hormones should be banned outright.
Ah well, at least you are running a PCT, which most users of PH's don't. Usually because they are taken by gullible youngsters who have no knowledge whatsoever, and it's sold to them by equally ignorant arseholes who promise them it's the same thing as steroids.
Good luck.

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