Winstrol/Test Suspention/B12 Cycle

Hey guys,

Ive read on other forums as well as local sites on this cycle and im looking to do something similar, Ive tweaked it a bit to my liking and experience, Please let me know what you think and duration that you'd run it for have a look at this:

"Good stack info - For the last 4 weeks I have given two guys the following stack with unbelievable results - 1.5mlxAqua Test inj. (Nomad Labs), 1.5mlxStanazol inj (Nomad Labs), 2mlxVitamin B12 all mixed in a 5ml syringe every three days. Both guys gained 8kg and 7kg respectively in four weeks with zero water retention and a huge gain in strength and drop in body fat. Anyone taking Stanazol should consider this combo as highly recommended!"

IMO the suspention should be shot every other day(every 2days) because of its short half-life and i would personally rather run var with it than stanazol

Something like this:

Anavar 40-60mg p/d
1.5ml Aqua Test inj. every 2days
1.5ml Vitamin B12 every 2days

What do you think?

As a matter of interest. Why The B12? How does it affect the cycle?

"Both guys gained 8kg and 7kg respectively in four weeks with zero water retention and a huge gain in strength and drop in body fat"
No offense, but im sorry I find this hard to believe, not the weight but the fact that he was using test Susp without water retention??? It is almost impossible to gain 8kg lean muscle mass in 4 weeks. Ive been using a long time and never got those kind of results, with far stronger stuff.

Thats what ive been thinking, i haven't almost had gains like that on a decent test eth/deca/dianabol cycly lol, but im just looking for a simple cutting cycle with short esters, haven't used test susp before and looking to give it a try.

As for the B12, im thinking to ease injection-pain? :blink:

minority wrote: Thats what ive been thinking, i haven't almost had gains like that on a decent test eth/deca/dianabol cycly lol, but im just looking for a simple cutting cycle with short esters, haven't used test susp before and looking to give it a try.

As for the B12, im thinking to ease injection-pain? :blink:

Ease the pain? Every B12 shot I have had, has burnt more than any Test shot I have ever done.

B vitamins are vital supplements for bodybuilders. B12 also increases ones apetite and BCO (the 6) aids in lowering prolactin levels. Again, B12 has been show to enhance cognition, B12 also aids in digestion and absorption of proteins, fats and carbs, and lets not forget to mention the energy levels when supplementing B12. B9 also reduces the risk of heart disease by lowering homocystein levels..

Don't exeed 1ml of B-CO a week, however you can take 4/5ml of B12.

shaunrsa wrote:

minority wrote: Thats what ive been thinking, i haven't almost had gains like that on a decent test eth/deca/dianabol cycly lol, but im just looking for a simple cutting cycle with short esters, haven't used test susp before and looking to give it a try.

As for the B12, im thinking to ease injection-pain? :blink:

Ease the pain? Every B12 shot I have had, has burnt more than any Test shot I have ever done.

B12's don't normally hurt, BCO does.

Aqua Test from Nomad hardens very quickly and clogs the needle so you can't inject, the B12 is used to in a way dilute it. I used to do the same thing as you want to inject it it clogs so you had to use a 20gauge just to put it in and be really quick. The B12 assisted.

Well thanks guys for the useful info, but what do you think about the cycle?

Nie....

Thanks guys I learned a lot again. Going to get me some BCO's and B12's for sure.

00pump wrote:

shaunrsa wrote:

minority wrote: Thats what ive been thinking, i haven't almost had gains like that on a decent test eth/deca/dianabol cycly lol, but im just looking for a simple cutting cycle with short esters, haven't used test susp before and looking to give it a try.

As for the B12, im thinking to ease injection-pain? :blink:

Ease the pain? Every B12 shot I have had, has burnt more than any Test shot I have ever done.

B12's don't normally hurt, BCO does.

Ja it was the B Complex that used to brand like hell

you got this cycle on a website that encourages dbol only cycles and states "testosterone should be avoided for first time users" so i'd do something else. rather take test prop and end off with 4weeks winny. o yeah and nomad sucks.

Frikkie wrote: you got this cycle on a website that encourages dbol only cycles and states "testosterone should be avoided for first time users" so i'd do something else. rather take test prop and end off with 4weeks winny. o yeah and nomad sucks.

Amen to all of the above!
What idiot recommends avoiding Test, and for a first cycle especially???

Can one use DBol/Anabol 40 mg/day with this cycle as my cousin is on the same cycle and he wishes to try it?

its a crap cycle, if he wants to screw it up even futher he can add dbol.
rather check out the sticky as to what a first cycle should look like, and most guys on the forum will agree that test suspension is a waste and rather go for prop if you want the short ester, but i dont think your cousin will have a cooking clue what im talking about cos he cant know anything if he does this cycle. do some research bud. good luck

Dankie Frikkie. You see, this was recommended to my cousin by a guy who competes and he said he used it before shows...so the advice is bad. But what gets me is that one can here that guys in the forum all have different experiences on what works or not. That is maybe why trial and error is best (with guidance of course)

His first cycle was Supertest and Deca with front loading with Superdrol....

CoutzerJD, the difference between guys that 'compete' and guys that 'compete' on here.. is quite simple, one is caveman information where you take what you think works and the other is science and knowing what works the best.. I have learnt allot on this forum, and so has everyone else. I sometimes have a point of view and someone else highlights something else that makes me questions XYZ or do more research on the matter, etc.

Provide us the 'exact' cycle he was recommended dosage, and start and end times of each compounds, and then lets take it from there.

Its cool Pump, the cycle is a waist I think (what I have heard) because he's not injecting EOD and my advice to him will be to kick it....

The reason why I'm on this forum is to gather information and I appreciate it. It just sounds that one can have a preference to one thing, and another can hate it. But the science is very welcome and one can't argue with that hey!

Yes everyone has a preference to what they enjoy, however the structure is normally the same, regardless of the individual.

also check out how many posts the guys you take advice from on the forum has made. there are a few "regulars" whos names you'll see often and in most threads. in most cases (not always cos obviously everybody is new at some point) these "regulars" are the guys who know what they are talking about and they have proved themselves more then enough for the rest of us to trust and to follow theair guidance. peace

I've done this cycle before exactly like stipulated and it is in fact my favourite cycle. In other words I did it 1.5ml of each twice a week with 2ml of b12 and i saw the following results: weeks 1-6 a huge cut in body fat and water with about 2kgs gain in size. From weeks 6-8 i put on 8kg ( believe it or not) of which i only maintained 4 kg's after the fact but body fat remained low and there was an amazing increase in muscle hardness. However, that was the first cycle I ever did so I am sure that had a slight role in those results as recently I have not seen the same results with that cycle. This is definitely due to the short acctive life of both these compounds and to combat this I did the same cycle as above except I included 30mg of winnies tabs a day throughout with even more impressive results. I find that the test suspension has a nice boosting effect when used twice a week if you add a bit more calories on shot days. Really like this course because even though the gains arent huge in the long run the lean gains are better and the sides are min. Thats just my 2 cents I am sure there are loads of people on here that know more than me