Re: putting together my first cycle

manery wrote: Hey bro, really enjoying following your progress. Your gaining great !! Are you going to post some before and after pics sometime?

Thanks mate. I might throw up a few pics after the bridge

Update

1) I fuuuarking love being on test! I don't ever want to come off...
2) Morning weight is 115
3) Inclined benched 140x2 yesterday (couldn't lock out the 3rd)
4) Posterior deltoids have come up nicely. Seated wide grip face pulls are the shiz!
5) Squatted 180x12

Wow Stanabolic, awesome 12kg gain bro! How much of that would you say is muscle, water and fat? Been seeing so many successful stories from guys using Cyp, beginning to make me wonder if I should opt for it over Supertest in my next cycle haha!

mad weights man.. impressive as hell

Update:

I've been cutting using IF for the last 4 weeks now. I was just under 117 at the time and now I'm sitting just under 110.
I lost the majority of that in the first week from water alone. I was really eating a disgusting amount of carbs lol.
I would say that I am pretty much the same BF% now as I was before the cycle. The goal is to hit 10% before I start PCT and long term I would like to be at around 8% by mid October.

I'm 3 shots into my new vial so that should leave me with 7 more and then of course the 36(?) day bridge. I've been training fasted at 9am and only getting my first meal in between 12 and 1pm. My last meal is always around 7:30pm.
My calories on training days come to a very low 2000. Strength and size is holding up perfectly so I don't see any reason why I should increase the cals. If I do start suffering in the gym then I'll bump it up by 200.

The macros change often but I always try to hit the same cals every day. If I feel like carbs then I simply lower my fats for the day. I haven't deprived myself of any foods I enjoy. I also haven't done any real cardio :woohoo:
I'll save it for when I need to shake things up.

As I said I haven't lost any strength and I am actually improving on some lifts still. My energy levels are ok. Obviously I'm not as cheery as I was on higher calories but I am not suffering in any way and I never feel hungry.
I'll post another update after my last pin.

Just stuck myself with my last shot of test

I've lost 13kgs so far and I'm sitting at 12%BF. Unfortunately its all holding around my lower back area

This is the leanest I've been in 2 years! But I'm not happy with it yet. Not even close!

I start my PCT either on the 16th or 19th next month. The PCT calculator gave me quite a few options but I'll see how I feel closer to the time.

The goal is to be go into PCT at 8%BF. For PCT I'll bump the cals up and do my best to hold onto the gains I've made and once I have recovered fully then I will probably continue to cut for another 4-6 weeks.

The end goal is a look rather than a number so when I look and feel like a shredded beast then I will end the cut

Strength levels are holding up fine and I don't appear to have lost any size.
Flat BB Press - 140 x 6
Back Squat - 180 x 8-12 depending on rest

My calories are a bit lower now at 1800 on workout days, 1500 on rest days and once a week I go up to 3500 calories from pizza, burgers, etc. Just pig the fuck out every now and then!

Stanabolic are you gonna be posting some before and after pics?

I don't think so. I have some family who read this forum and I have quite a lot of tattoos that will give me away.

Oh ok, well atleast we have your stats to see!

Hopefully someone can help me out here. I start my winny tomorrow at 40mg ED for 25 days and then its PCT. Do I split that dose to one in the morning and one in the evening?

split it. half life is 8 hours.
out of interest, what brand is this winny?

Thanks mate. Its Axio...

Stanabolic wrote: Thanks mate. Its Axio...

aha cool. all the best with the last stretch

Heretic47 wrote:

Stanabolic wrote: Thanks mate. Its Axio...

aha cool. all the best with the last stretch

Thanks. I'm really gonna miss the test

Update:
Down to just just under 11% body fat now. 25 days left!!
I'm adding cardio into the mix now to speed things up for this last stretch.
Because I'm already training fasted I'll just add 30-40 minutes incline walking at a medium intensity after each workout.
I'm already the leanest I've ever been right now (I know thats bad :lol: ) so I'm really excited about the weeks ahead!
Strength and size all holding up. Squatted 180x12 followed by another set of 7 the other day. Feeling strong!

I don't know if its the winny but I am feeling fantastic! Strength, endurance and pumps are all great. Despite the very low calories I managed to incline 140x2 this morning.

The more fat I lose the more I am able to see the improvements I have made and I'm very happy with it. I'd still like to throw some more meat on my shoulders (need those Ben Pakulski deltoids) but I have plenty of time ahead of me to do that. Hopefully I can hold onto the gains when PCT comes around.

That's all for now...

Today was the 4th day of PCT. I will say that libido is very low but really other than that I feel fine. I noticed that if I take my clomid in the morning I become drowsy throughout the day, but if I take it at night then I wake up feeling fine and not lethargic at all.

Workouts have been great. I set PRs on just about every exercise I did today. I don't feel myself but there is no loss of motivation and I don't feel depressed.

I don't know if the PCT will catch up a bit further in but for now I feel ok.

Great man! 25mg proviron daily will keep libido up and wont do anything negative to your pct...jus saying

Hows the weight holding up?

25mg of proviron will negatively effect pct, hence the reason why guys like doctari don't use it through their pct.

DJ wrote: 25mg of proviron will negatively effect pct, hence the reason why guys like doctari don't use it through their pct.

I got the idea from a post by doctari...

gorilla wrote: Great man!
Hows the weight holding up?

Thanks G. I managed to cut down to 102kgs at 10% body fat. That is leanest I've ever been so I'm quite happy about it
Now with carbs back in the diet and overall just more food my weight fluctuates between 105-106kgs.

Thats great stan! Well done to you bro..

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Doctari:

Ever heard of Deca Dick? That's the impotence that developes on Deca if you don't PCT adequately, as Deca will suppress your HPTA as long as 6 months.I've read considerable amounts of literature on PCT. This is what I use in all my patients currently.

During your course, use 250-500IU's Ovidrel once a week. The higher your Test dose, the better to use 500IU's. If Deca(any amount)is part of your course, use 500iu's. Then, calculate the last injection of AAS's component's 1/2 life - this is the first official day of your PCT. From thois day, use 50mg Clomid twice a day for only 7 days - nothing else. Then, on day 8 start with 20mg Kessar per day and Aromasin 25mg p day and continue for 21 days. Start on day 8 with 1000IU's of Ovidrel, but split this into 4-5 equal injections(200-250IU p shot), one shot every 2 1/2 hours during the awake part of your day. Use the Ovidrel one day on, one day of for 20 days. This is the minimum PCT needed. You can also add in Proviron at 50 -100mg p day during the PCT. Bridge this 3 week period of PCT with ultra low dose oral AAS - like 5-10mg D-bol 0r similar dose Anavar per day. P

Gorilla, that's a post from 2008. I'm pretty sure DJ has discussed PCT protocols with Doctari in far greater detail than you can learn via the search function. And even Doctari can change his mind and refine his ideas - in the post you refer to he mentions that "This is what I use in all my patients currently", but PCT3 is his more recent recommendation.

Many guys reckon proviron is ok during PCT because of a study that showed proviron had very little effect on the HPTA with blood tests showing that many guys in the study still had normal LH/Test levels while on proviron. BUT there is big difference when you have a shut down HTPA which you are trying to restore to normal while taking something androgenic like proviron. In that case proviron does slow down recovery as many people's experience has shown.

It seems I spoke too soon! I woke up anxious and continued my day feeling extremely anxious for every second of the day for no apparent reason. From what I've read this is a pretty common side effect of clomid. I only have 2 more days on it so its ok.

I imagine if anyone was already a very depressed individual who had no clue what he might experience during PCT, that they might find this time to be unbearable. Its really quite a weird experience :huh: but carb backloading cheers me up a bit :lol: