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Could someone please explian to me what these products are and what they do:
19 Nor Tren
E-bolon
Halo-7

Would any of these be better than Superbol?
Looking to gain some lean mass with anabolics... Any help here?
Was going to do the HGH route, but i think i am still a bit young for that. What age would you recommend someone starts HGH?

i did it at 23 but i should've waited till at least 25.
so then if u are looking to gain lean mass look through the forum for any of the equi and test cycles....there are plenty threads that will put u in the right direction

Why do you say you should have waited? Just curious?
I am trying to stick away from injectables, as girlfriend is against it.
Hence me asking what those other products are.
Was thinking of combining Anavar and Superbol. Dont need huge gains, but decent ones (about 4 kg's in about 2 months). I gym 5 days a week, and dam hard. And i eat well. Body fat right now is probably around the 11-12% mark.

Anyone else with an answer? Netro?

Mr_SA wrote:

Could someone please explian to me what these products are and what they do:
19 Nor Tren
E-bolon
Halo-7

those products are all made by ACR who also make s-drol...
supposedly e -bolon is derived from equi, and take a wild guess what the other two are supposedly derived from

also, tell the girlfriend that the pills will more than likey cause more harm or damage to you than the injectible stuff will

I was also interested in using prohormones, im currently on E-Bolon now, going quite well - strength is up but haven't weighed myself in a while..

www.advancednutritiontx.com/PROHORMONEPROF.aspx - some pro hormone info..


www.anabolicbodies.com - Has info on those specific products.

Thanks for the help Novice

What about combining S-Drol and Halo7???
Then PCT with HOT.

Can i have some feedback please?
and maybe throwing in Anavar???

That should be quite nice according to that first site because you mixing class 1 & 2 prohormones.

If i go on another coarse of these ill be stacking 19 nor + Halo,

Most guys on this forum have only tried s-drol and the reports are only good, but besides that guys don't really use PH's..

Maybe try an overseas forum..

Which would be good? The S-Drol and Halo or the S-Drol and Anavar?

Thanks

I think u'd gain more weight with S-drol + halo..
and gains would be leaner with S-drol + Anavar,
The term 'good' is specific to what you want at the moment.
Id want leaner gains but you could be looking for mass.
And the var is gonna put a nice dent in your wallet compared to the halo

Mr_SA wrote:

Thanks for the help Novice

What about combining S-Drol and Halo7???
Then PCT with HOT.

Can i have some feedback please?
and maybe throwing in Anavar???

if you're worried about being too young to use steroids , which is a VERY SENSIBLE approach ... its not much better dabbling in pro-hormones or pro-steroids like superdrol dude ...


WOT

Must agree with WOT here, pro hormones have all the cons and very little pro's. S-Drol is a good one IMO, but still not that great. Var is brilliant, but you still need to be aware of precautions.

Looking at 4kg's in 2 months and you not wanting injections, take var, get your diet in line and you can get away wit the 4 kg's easy. PCT is also simple and not really necessary, more of a precaution with var. 20 - 50mg p/day is a good dose. I would not combine with a pro-hormone, just run var alone and see what you can take out of the cycle.

The more gains you make the more the girlfriend will start to see the benefits and var promotes nice lean and hard gains.

Thanks VERY much Netro... i like your thinking alot!!!
What cons do you thin Pro-hormones have though (like S-drol), i am curious! The product looks fantastic, and only has good reviews.

Don't misunderstand, it is a good product, but real gear is better. You have the same, or as many sides with a pro hormone like Superbol as you do with Dianabol. The effect s of d-bol is just better considering you going to give your kidneys and other body parts a hammering. IMO if you going to take something that has bad sides, then at least make it worth while from a gains point.

Pro-hormones have their place, but if it is a straight comparison with gear .... well there is none

Netro wrote:

Don't misunderstand, it is a good product, but real gear is better. You have the same, or as many sides with a pro hormone like Superbol as you do with Dianabol. The effect s of d-bol is just better considering you going to give your kidneys and other body parts a hammering. IMO if you going to take something that has bad sides, then at least make it worth while from a gains point.

Pro-hormones have their place, but if it is a straight comparison with gear .... well there is none

My thoughts exactly bro !

Been reading quite abit about prohormones and that, it definately is better to stick to real gear, but heres some of the stuff iv found about "Tren" and "Halo" prohormones/designer steroids/whatever else you wanna call them. Havent read much about EBolon

Got the following from a bb.com article about 19 nor tren

Target Hormone: 19Nortestosterone (nandrolone)
Molecular name of target hormone: 17ß-hydroxy-19-nor-4-andro-sten-3-one
Target conversion: average (5.61 %)
Conversion enzyme: 17-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase (17HSD)
DHT conversion: None
Estrogenic effects: possibility of aromatisation of the compound as well as the target hormone.

The first prohormone to convert to nandrolone in the body. It yields roughly 5.61% percent of nandrolone from the amount ingested, which is decent. It's a dione version meaning there is a risk of estrogen aromatisation prior to conversion, but it's only moderately androgenic and more anabolic than andro because it yields more available nandrolone than andro does testosterone. Obviously it doesn't measure up against Nor-diol, but with andro being out of the question for most people that means it's often stacked with 4-diol or 5-diol. If you are using these as the hinges of your stack, obviously your 3-beta enzymes will be stocked, meaning that if you wanted to add a low-androgen compound to your stack, 19Nor would be first choice. Obviously the risk of estrogen is minimized because the other products are diols and adding a nor for extra anabolic effects without the fear of extra androgenic side effects is always a good deal. But the only reason most companies prefer 19Nor over Nor-diol is the simple reason that Nor-diol costs three times as much to manufacture, so the economic returns are limited. Instead of being upfront about money-grubbing, they invent stuff about there being no quality Nor-diol available. AST is one company that has sunk that low. This is simply not true. Nor-diol is hard to find yes, but if you find the right brand you can expect 85-90 percent purity, and that's pretty damn good.

The compund in ACR's tren is
19–norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione

If you guys know what the hell any of that means feel free to share:P

Didnt find quite as much about Halo..
Its active compund is
4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1-4-diene-3-17b-diol

It's hepatoxic, and you can expect lower back and calf pumps..Modest gains in mass and strength. Most users take this as part of a cutting cycle. This is a prosteroid of Turinabol.

Heres the link to the bb.com article, it has quite alot of info in it
www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catproh.htm

A link to another site with a list of common ph's
www.ironmagazineforums.com/anabolic-zone...-ph-s-out-there.html