Painless, Bloodless Injection Site

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16 Apr 2013 22:25 - 17 Apr 2013 12:01 #136238 by Blue Label
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I know there's a 9 page sticky-thread devoted to avoiding injection pain, but I want to talk about a single site that delivers an almost painless and bloodless experience.

I've obviously used the Search function and found nothing on the site related to the topic- so here we go:

It's called the ventrogluteal area and the muscle is the gluteus medius. The site is located slightly above the hip joint and is suitable for injections because it apparently lacks major nerves and blood vessels.

The gluteus medius is V-shaped and originates on the ilium and inserts on the greater trochanter at the top of the femur.

Now, the first time I injected into this area, I used the same method I would when pinning into my glutes- a swift stab. This was unnecessary and led to swelling that caused me to hobble around for several days.

It took a while before I would try the site again, but I quickly learned that the best approach is simply to find a suitable spot in the area, swab, place the tip of the needle against the skin and push it in.

You don't need blinding speed because the relative scarcity of nerves in the area means you'll feel almost no pain. Actually, I recommend that you try to force yourself to slow down while inserting the pin because you'll stand a better chance of getting it straight and on target.

The muscle lies close to the surface of the skin, unless you have a high bodyfat percentage, therefore needles can be as short as 2.5 centimetres (1 inch). At the same time, the muscle is quite thick, so a 3.75 (1.5 inch) needle can be used without the risk of hitting bone.

I've used this site when conducting a daily injection protocol on myself- alternating sides and literally jabbing into an area about 5 millimetres away from the site I'd used just 48 hours previously. Bleeding was typically minimal, with only a pinhead-sized spot left on the swab after wiping the area. On occasion, I'd get too close to a recently used site and then a little more of the claret would dribble out, but nothing dramatic. I've found that pulling the needle out fairly slowly also seems to help minimise bleeding.

If, like most relatively sane people, you're sceptical about poking holes in an unfamiliar part of your body, you can search for "ventrogluteal injection site landmarks" in Google Images. There are several pics that will guide you.

Another way of finding the site is to stand upright and evenly balanced on both feet, with your hands at your sides. Then, raise your hands straight up until your fingertips are positioned a centimetre or two above your hip joints. Now, push your fingers firmly against that spot and rock from side-to-side, alternately placing all of your weight on one leg and then the other. The muscle we're looking for will tense and relax under your fingertips.

From what I've read, nursing and medical staff (in the USA at least) are taught to use this area for intramuscular injections.

I don't claim to have disovered this injection site and admit that I first read about it on another website dedicated to the pursuit of knowledge of anabolic substances. I have done a significant amount of research though, including using my own body as a pin-cushion.

Remember to aspirate!

All of my statements are hypothetical and are intended for entertainment purposes only.
Last edit: 17 Apr 2013 12:01 by Blue Label.
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17 Apr 2013 07:45 #136241 by SV
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I rotate using the gluteus maximus (dorsogluteal) and gluteas medius (ventrogluteal), that way I know that i am not pinning near the same spot etc. Nice site though.

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17 Apr 2013 08:38 #136242 by Lee2011
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I am new to pining myself two injections experince but i had some expert help from my GP on that subject.I do test cyp 250mcg/weekly into the "vastus lateralis" big leg muscle and I experince no pain and minimal bleeding it is a relative big muscle so more pin area available.I use 1.5 inch needle 22G.Just feel like sharing my experience.

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17 Apr 2013 12:11 #136256 by Blue Label
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I forgot to mention that this site is particularly suited to injections containing large volumes. I believe that shots containing 3-4ml are a breeze and result in virtually no lameness afterward.

To be honest, I've not personally injected such large volumes, so your mileage may vary.

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17 Apr 2013 12:15 #136257 by Blue Label
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Lee2011 wrote: Just feel like sharing my experience.


No problem. After all, we're on this site to share and gain knowledge.

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17 Apr 2013 12:59 #136259 by Oupa
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Thx for the info

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17 Apr 2013 13:31 #136260 by Lee2011
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thank noted for future reference

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17 Apr 2013 22:41 - 17 Apr 2013 22:43 #136314 by Benjii
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Lee2011 wrote: I am new to pining myself two injections experince but i had some expert help from my GP on that subject.I do test cyp 250mcg/weekly into the "vastus lateralis" big leg muscle and I experince no pain and minimal bleeding it is a relative big muscle so more pin area available.I use 1.5 inch needle 22G.Just feel like sharing my experience.


Same here Lee2011... 1 -2ml twice weekly of 250mg Test C. works like a charm

Blue Label thank you very much for this...my next cycle I'm doing Test P, so will certainly give this a try. With regards to "I've found that pulling the needle out fairly slowly also seems to help minimise bleeding"...what I do is after the shot, leave the needle in there for a good 30 - 60 seconds...then slowly pull out. Works like a charm and hardly any bleeding, at most 2 / 3 tiny drops. Light rubbing or massage is also good hey, just remember not to put too much pressure on the site.

Again, as I'm also fairly new; I thank you for the advice and suggestions. Will give it a bash next time.
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18 Apr 2013 11:45 #136331 by Bandit
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My favorite site would be shoulders. Painless for me.

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18 Apr 2013 11:53 #136333 by Oupa
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Bandit1200 wrote: My favorite site would be shoulders. Painless for me.


I have to agree, Glutes & Delts painless and 99% bloodless

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18 Apr 2013 15:38 - 18 Apr 2013 15:47 #136354 by Blue Label
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Bandit1200 wrote: My favorite site would be shoulders. Painless for me.


Hi Bandit

I have never injected into my delts.

I've suffered a number of shoulder injuries and impingements and as it is, I have to spend a significant amount of time every week doing shoulder mobility exercises. Combine that with the fact that my current workout routine requires me to do shoulder-press and bench-press on Mondays and Thursdays, and I'm reluctant to risk any bruising to the area.

I'm assuming you use shorter esters and more frequent, low-volume shots? Unless you have shoulders like Levrone, in which case you'd hardly notice if half a litre of fluid was injected in there. ;)

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